From lschiere at pidgin.im  Mon Sep 24 12:50:50 2007
From: lschiere at pidgin.im (Luke Schierer)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:50:50 -0400
Subject: pidginim.org and pidginim.com
Message-ID: <20070924165050.GG12038@pidgin.im>

Sean asked me to look at transfering pidginim.com and pidginim.org to
our control from the person offering them to us. 

While we have trivially set them up to point to the same ip as
homing.pidgin.im, transfering them requires somewhat more work.

Most importantly, transfering them requires I pay $8.95 per domain for a
1 year registration, and $134.72 per domain for a 10 year registration
(there are a range of prices between these).  This is using dotster, the
registrar I used for imfreedom.org (and for some of my personal
domains).  pidgin.im itself was donated, but was not transfered to our
control.  

luke

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From elb at pidgin.im  Mon Sep 24 19:54:43 2007
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:54:43 -0400
Subject: pidginim.org and pidginim.com
In-Reply-To: <20070924165050.GG12038@pidgin.im>
References: <20070924165050.GG12038@pidgin.im>
Message-ID: <20070924235443.GA17346@elb.elitists.net>

Luke Schierer spake unto us the following wisdom:
> Sean asked me to look at transfering pidginim.com and pidginim.org to
> our control from the person offering them to us. 
> 
> While we have trivially set them up to point to the same ip as
> homing.pidgin.im, transfering them requires somewhat more work.
> 
> Most importantly, transfering them requires I pay $8.95 per domain for a
> 1 year registration, and $134.72 per domain for a 10 year registration
> (there are a range of prices between these).  This is using dotster, the
> registrar I used for imfreedom.org (and for some of my personal
> domains).  pidgin.im itself was donated, but was not transfered to our
> control.  

I am ambivalent as to whether or not we buy these, or care about them
at all; if we decide we do care, $9/year seems reasonable to me.

Ethan

-- 
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
		-- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764
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From mark at kingant.net  Tue Sep 25 01:36:52 2007
From: mark at kingant.net (Mark Doliner)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:36:52 -0500
Subject: pidginim.org and pidginim.com
In-Reply-To: <20070924235443.GA17346@elb.elitists.net>
References: <20070924165050.GG12038@pidgin.im>
	<20070924235443.GA17346@elb.elitists.net>
Message-ID: <20070925053503.M2738@kingant.net>

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:54:43 -0400, Ethan Blanton wrote
> Luke Schierer spake unto us the following wisdom:
> > Sean asked me to look at transfering pidginim.com and pidginim.org to
> > our control from the person offering them to us. 
> > 
> > While we have trivially set them up to point to the same ip as
> > homing.pidgin.im, transfering them requires somewhat more work.
> > 
> > Most importantly, transfering them requires I pay $8.95 per domain for a
> > 1 year registration, and $134.72 per domain for a 10 year registration
> > (there are a range of prices between these).  This is using dotster, the
> > registrar I used for imfreedom.org (and for some of my personal
> > domains).  pidgin.im itself was donated, but was not transfered to our
> > control.
> 
> I am ambivalent as to whether or not we buy these, or care about them
> at all; if we decide we do care, $9/year seems reasonable to me.

I'm in favor of transferring them to us.  Registering them for 4 years seems
like a good amount of time.  And $9/year seems reasonable to me.  $72 seems
like a low price to pay for a little brand stability.

-Mark
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From evan.s at dreskin.net  Tue Sep 25 23:09:40 2007
From: evan.s at dreskin.net (Evan Schoenberg)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:09:40 -0400
Subject: pidginim.org and pidginim.com
In-Reply-To: <20070925053503.M2738@kingant.net>
References: <20070924165050.GG12038@pidgin.im>
	<20070924235443.GA17346@elb.elitists.net>
	<20070925053503.M2738@kingant.net>
Message-ID: <780AC297-6E23-4467-A12D-F62B5D80F3B9@dreskin.net>


On Sep 25, 2007, at 1:36 AM, Mark Doliner wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:54:43 -0400, Ethan Blanton wrote
>> Luke Schierer spake unto us the following wisdom:
>>> Sean asked me to look at transfering pidginim.com and pidginim.org  
>>> to
>>> our control from the person offering them to us.
>>>
>>> While we have trivially set them up to point to the same ip as
>>> homing.pidgin.im, transfering them requires somewhat more work.
>>>
>>> Most importantly, transfering them requires I pay $8.95 per domain  
>>> for a
>>> 1 year registration, and $134.72 per domain for a 10 year  
>>> registration
>>> (there are a range of prices between these).  This is using  
>>> dotster, the
>>> registrar I used for imfreedom.org (and for some of my personal
>>> domains).  pidgin.im itself was donated, but was not transfered to  
>>> our
>>> control.
>>
>> I am ambivalent as to whether or not we buy these, or care about them
>> at all; if we decide we do care, $9/year seems reasonable to me.
>
> I'm in favor of transferring them to us.  Registering them for 4  
> years seems
> like a good amount of time.  And $9/year seems reasonable to me.   
> $72 seems
> like a low price to pay for a little brand stability.

I agree.

Controlling the domains and pointing them appropriately is almost a  
public service independent of brand stability given the evil someone  
could propagate with control of such a near-sounding domain name.

-Evan
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