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From mark at kingant.net  Fri Dec  4 03:42:36 2009
From: mark at kingant.net (Mark Doliner)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 00:42:36 -0800
Subject: Trademarks
In-Reply-To: <35EEEFFD-7C7F-4716-A78D-6592259411C2@adium.im>
References: <D88AD2EF-4EC5-4D7E-9519-1AD0E5F1BDD0@schierer.org>
	<35EEEFFD-7C7F-4716-A78D-6592259411C2@adium.im>
Message-ID: <55130ac0912040042r22b08362i43629045615594e2@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
>
> On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Luke Schierer wrote:
>
>> Given the series of events that lead us to set up IMF and change from Gaim to Pidgin and libPurple, I propose that IMF file for Pidgin, Finch, Adium and libPurple trademarks.
>>
>> Per the by-laws, voting on this does not start until 2009-11-31.
>
> I second this motion.

Oh hey, should we be voting on this now?  I totally vote "yea."  I
don't know what's involved in filing for a trademark, though.  I'm
also in favor of "libpurple" being all lowercase everywhere.

-Mark

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From luke at schierer.org  Fri Dec  4 07:47:10 2009
From: luke at schierer.org (Luke Schierer)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:47:10 -0500
Subject: Trademarks
In-Reply-To: <55130ac0912040042r22b08362i43629045615594e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D88AD2EF-4EC5-4D7E-9519-1AD0E5F1BDD0@schierer.org>
	<35EEEFFD-7C7F-4716-A78D-6592259411C2@adium.im>
	<55130ac0912040042r22b08362i43629045615594e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9E25932D-B7C5-4122-B244-F1123FD9EDE1@schierer.org>


On Dec 4, 2009, at 03:42 EST, Mark Doliner wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Luke Schierer wrote:
>> 
>>> Given the series of events that lead us to set up IMF and change from Gaim to Pidgin and libPurple, I propose that IMF file for Pidgin, Finch, Adium and libPurple trademarks.
>>> 
>>> Per the by-laws, voting on this does not start until 2009-11-31.
>> 
>> I second this motion.
> 
> Oh hey, should we be voting on this now?  I totally vote "yea."  I
> don't know what's involved in filing for a trademark, though.  I'm
> also in favor of "libpurple" being all lowercase everywhere.
> 
> -Mark

I also vote in favor.  

Luke

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From evan at adium.im  Fri Dec  4 09:22:04 2009
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:22:04 -0600
Subject: Trademarks
In-Reply-To: <55130ac0912040042r22b08362i43629045615594e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D88AD2EF-4EC5-4D7E-9519-1AD0E5F1BDD0@schierer.org>
	<35EEEFFD-7C7F-4716-A78D-6592259411C2@adium.im>
	<55130ac0912040042r22b08362i43629045615594e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <21C950AD-91C4-454A-A897-5201498CBB03@adium.im>


On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:42 AM, Mark Doliner wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Luke Schierer wrote:
>> 
>>> Given the series of events that lead us to set up IMF and change from Gaim to Pidgin and libPurple, I propose that IMF file for Pidgin, Finch, Adium and libPurple trademarks.
>>> 
>>> Per the by-laws, voting on this does not start until 2009-11-31.
>> 
>> I second this motion.
> 
> Oh hey, should we be voting on this now?  I totally vote "yea."  I
> don't know what's involved in filing for a trademark, though.  I'm
> also in favor of "libpurple" being all lowercase everywhere.

I vote yes, and agree with Mark regarding the no-caps nature of libpurple.

-Evan
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From elb at pidgin.im  Fri Dec  4 09:53:24 2009
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:53:24 -0500
Subject: Trademarks
In-Reply-To: <55130ac0912040042r22b08362i43629045615594e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D88AD2EF-4EC5-4D7E-9519-1AD0E5F1BDD0@schierer.org>
	<35EEEFFD-7C7F-4716-A78D-6592259411C2@adium.im>
	<55130ac0912040042r22b08362i43629045615594e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091204145324.GA3685@colt>

Mark Doliner spake unto us the following wisdom:
> >> Given the series of events that lead us to set up IMF and change from
> >> Gaim to Pidgin and libPurple, I propose that IMF file for Pidgin,
> >> Finch, Adium and libPurple trademarks.
> >>
> >> Per the by-laws, voting on this does not start until 2009-11-31.
> >
> > I second this motion.

I also vote yea.

Ethan

-- 
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
		-- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764
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From markster at digium.com  Fri Dec  4 09:55:47 2009
From: markster at digium.com (Mark Spencer)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:55:47 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Trademarks
In-Reply-To: <55130ac0912040042r22b08362i43629045615594e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <25933450.821681259938547504.JavaMail.root@jupiler.digium.com>

I vote in support as well, but do we have someone in mind to do the trademarks?

Mark

Mark Spencer          
Digium, Inc. | Founder and Chief Technology Officer     
445 Jan Davis Drive NW ? Huntsville, AL 35806 ? USA    
direct: +1 256-428-6275         
fax: +1 256-428-6057          
twitter: markster | skype: digium1  
Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org     
       

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Doliner" <mark at kingant.net>
To: board at imfreedom.org
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 2:42:36 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: Trademarks

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
>
> On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Luke Schierer wrote:
>
>> Given the series of events that lead us to set up IMF and change from Gaim to Pidgin and libPurple, I propose that IMF file for Pidgin, Finch, Adium and libPurple trademarks.
>>
>> Per the by-laws, voting on this does not start until 2009-11-31.
>
> I second this motion.

Oh hey, should we be voting on this now?  I totally vote "yea."  I
don't know what's involved in filing for a trademark, though.  I'm
also in favor of "libpurple" being all lowercase everywhere.

-Mark

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From elb at pidgin.im  Fri Dec  4 09:58:10 2009
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:58:10 -0500
Subject: Trademarks
In-Reply-To: <25933450.821681259938547504.JavaMail.root@jupiler.digium.com>
References: <55130ac0912040042r22b08362i43629045615594e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<25933450.821681259938547504.JavaMail.root@jupiler.digium.com>
Message-ID: <20091204145810.GC3685@colt>

Mark Spencer spake unto us the following wisdom:
> I vote in support as well, but do we have someone in mind to do the
> trademarks?

I think Sean should ask our lawyers about this.  I for one know
nothing about trademark applications.  :-)

Ethan

-- 
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for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
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From markster at digium.com  Fri Dec  4 10:08:25 2009
From: markster at digium.com (Mark Spencer)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:08:25 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Trademarks
In-Reply-To: <20091204145810.GC3685@colt>
Message-ID: <10956555.822001259939305654.JavaMail.root@jupiler.digium.com>

Having done it before myself for Asterisk and Digium, I might be able to offer some insight, but if there were just one bit of advice I'd give it's be absolutely 100% sure you do it right the first time because fixing it is a huge huge mess.

Mark Spencer          
Digium, Inc. | Founder and Chief Technology Officer     
445 Jan Davis Drive NW ? Huntsville, AL 35806 ? USA    
direct: +1 256-428-6275         
fax: +1 256-428-6057          
twitter: markster | skype: digium1  
Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org     
       

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan Blanton" <elb at pidgin.im>
To: "Mark Spencer" <markster at digium.com>
Cc: "Mark Doliner" <mark at kingant.net>, board at imfreedom.org
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 8:58:10 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: Trademarks

Mark Spencer spake unto us the following wisdom:
> I vote in support as well, but do we have someone in mind to do the
> trademarks?

I think Sean should ask our lawyers about this.  I for one know
nothing about trademark applications.  :-)

Ethan

-- 
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
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From rekkanoryo at rekkanoryo.org  Fri Dec  4 20:34:55 2009
From: rekkanoryo at rekkanoryo.org (John Bailey)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:34:55 -0500
Subject: Trademarks
In-Reply-To: <55130ac0912040042r22b08362i43629045615594e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D88AD2EF-4EC5-4D7E-9519-1AD0E5F1BDD0@schierer.org>	<35EEEFFD-7C7F-4716-A78D-6592259411C2@adium.im>
	<55130ac0912040042r22b08362i43629045615594e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B19B8BF.7000508@rekkanoryo.org>

Mark Doliner wrote:
> Oh hey, should we be voting on this now?  I totally vote "yea."  I
> don't know what's involved in filing for a trademark, though.  I'm
> also in favor of "libpurple" being all lowercase everywhere.
> 
> -Mark

I vote in favor as well.

I believe I was voted into the board?  (Sorry, missed the meeting due to work.)
 If that's right, can someone add me to board at imfreedom.org?

John

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From elb at pidgin.im  Fri Dec  4 20:44:10 2009
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 20:44:10 -0500
Subject: Trademarks
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John Bailey spake unto us the following wisdom:
> I believe I was voted into the board?  (Sorry, missed the meeting due
> to work.) If that's right, can someone add me to board at imfreedom.org?

It is.  Don't act like I didn't tell you.  ;-)

You've been added.

Ethan

-- 
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for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
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From mark at kingant.net  Fri Dec  4 22:19:55 2009
From: mark at kingant.net (Mark Doliner)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 19:19:55 -0800
Subject: Transcripts of board meetings
Message-ID: <55130ac0912041919w386300acp6ec03c91febc3777@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!  I'm planning on posting the transcripts from our board meetings
to http://imfreedom.org/  Any objections?  Also, does anyone have a
transcript from the meeting on 2007-05-15?  If so, could you please
email it directly to me?  Preferably full HTML, but plaintext would
work, too.

I'm also going to update the list of board members and change some of
the language to reflect Adium and Vulture.

Thanks,
Mark


From rekkanoryo at pidgin.im  Mon Dec  7 12:26:51 2009
From: rekkanoryo at pidgin.im (John Bailey)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:26:51 -0500
Subject: Terms of Vulture's Acceptance to IMF
Message-ID: <4B1D3ADB.6030503@pidgin.im>

Hi, all,

At the last IM Freedom board meeting, it was voted to accept the fledgling
Vulture project under IMF's umbrella with specifics to be determined later.  Per
that vote, I'd like to discuss the specifics.

I'm proposing, unless anyone objects or has better ideas, that when the
vulture.im website is set up, we use it in addition to pidgin.im to solicit
donations to IMF.  I know we don't have a donation mechanism set up yet, but I
believe Kevin was supposed to be working on that.  Anyway, I'm proposing that
all donations solicited via vulture.im go directly to IMF, with the
understanding that donations don't grant the donor the right to direct
development.  Of course, I'd like for the Vulture project to be able to use some
of that money should the need ever arise (which is something I don't forsee
happening) in the same way Pidgin has done.

I'd also like to see IMF manage the Vulture trademark, once we establish one,
which I believe we need to wait on until we've made a release and started using
said trademark.

As a data point related to expenses, for now and the forseeable future, Vulture
is using the Pidgin status and protocol icons, which IMF already contracted
prior to the settlement with AOL.  I doubt we'll have a need to change these, as
they look perfectly fine as-is.  We don't have a Vulture logo, but I was hoping
we could get someone to volunteer a logo instead of needing to contract an
artist for one.

So, I'd like comments for refinements and appropriate phrasing (and any changes
that may be appropriate or necessary) so we can iron out a specific document for
IMF's board to vote on.

Thanks,
John

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From rekkanoryo at pidgin.im  Mon Dec  7 12:38:11 2009
From: rekkanoryo at pidgin.im (John Bailey)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:38:11 -0500
Subject: Terms of Vulture's Acceptance to IMF
Message-ID: <4B1D3D83.7020902@pidgin.im>

Hi, all,

First, apologies for sending a blank mail on this subject earlier.

Second, at the last IM Freedom board meeting, it was voted to accept the
fledgling Vulture project under IMF's umbrella with specifics to be determined
later.  Per that vote, I'd like to discuss the specifics.

I'm proposing, unless anyone objects or has better ideas, that when the
vulture.im website is set up, we use it in addition to pidgin.im to solicit
donations to IMF.  I know we don't have a donation mechanism set up yet, but I
believe Kevin was supposed to be working on that.  Anyway, I'm proposing that
all donations solicited via vulture.im go directly to IMF, with the
understanding that donations don't grant the donor the right to direct
development.  Of course, I'd like for the Vulture project to be able to use some
of that money should the need ever arise (which is something I don't forsee
happening) in the same way Pidgin has done.

I'd also like to see IMF manage the Vulture trademark, once we establish one,
which I believe we need to wait on until we've made a release and started using
said trademark.

As a data point related to expenses, for now and the forseeable future, Vulture
is using the Pidgin status and protocol icons, which IMF already contracted
prior to the settlement with AOL.  I doubt we'll have a need to change these, as
they look perfectly fine as-is.  We don't have a Vulture logo, but I was hoping
we could get someone to volunteer a logo instead of needing to contract an
artist for one.

So, I'd like comments for refinements and appropriate phrasing (and any changes
that may be appropriate or necessary) so we can iron out a specific document for
IMF's board to vote on.

Thanks,
John

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From rekkanoryo at pidgin.im  Mon Dec  7 13:10:54 2009
From: rekkanoryo at pidgin.im (John Bailey)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:10:54 -0500
Subject: Terms of Vulture's Acceptance to IMF
In-Reply-To: <4B1D3D83.7020902@pidgin.im>
References: <4B1D3D83.7020902@pidgin.im>
Message-ID: <4B1D452E.1060807@pidgin.im>

John Bailey wrote:
> As a data point related to expenses, for now and the forseeable future, Vulture
> is using the Pidgin status and protocol icons, which IMF already contracted
> prior to the settlement with AOL.  I doubt we'll have a need to change these, as
> they look perfectly fine as-is.  We don't have a Vulture logo, but I was hoping
> we could get someone to volunteer a logo instead of needing to contract an
> artist for one.

I also forgot to mention the vulture.im domain, which I registered for 5 years
in my own name with the intention of donating it to the project.  Gregor
reimbursed me for half of that cost.  The total was 160.00 Pound Sterling, which
translated to $266.54 US with the exchange rates on September 13 (the date that
the transaction posted to my credit card account).  I expect that I'll be able
to donate the domain name again when its registration is due for renewal in
September 2014.

John

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From actors at sewsus.com.mx  Sat Dec 26 09:02:29 2009
From: actors at sewsus.com.mx (Baka Palmerton)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:02:29 +0100
Subject: landlord's 
Message-ID: <4B361638.5020606@sewsus.com.mx>

Were a little remarkable, come to think of it," answered Nick, settling
down into his saddle again. Indeed, the man's face had struck me so
forcibly that I was surprised out of an inquiry which I had meant to
make of him, namely, how far we were from the Saint-Gre plantation. We
pursued our way slowly, from time to time catching a glimpse of a
dwelling almost hid in the distant foliage, until at length we came to a
place a little more pretentious than those which we had seen. From the
road a graceful flight of wooden steps climbed the levee and descended
on the far side to a boat landing, and a straight vista cut through the
grove, lined by wild orange trees, disclosed the white pillars and
galleries of a far-away plantation house. The grassy path leading
through the vista was trimly kept, and on either side of it in the
moist, green shade of the great trees flowers bloomed in a profusion of
startling colors,--in splotches of scarlet and white and royal purple.
Nick slipped from his horse. "Behold the mansion of Mademoiselle de
Saint-Gre," said he, waving his hand up the vista. "How do you know?" I
asked. "I am told by a part of me that never lies, Davy," he answered,
laying his hand upon his heart; "and besides," he added, "I should
dislike devilishly to go too far on such a day and have to come back
again." "We will rest here," I said, laughing, "and send in Benjy to
find out." "Davy," he answered, with withering contempt, "you have no
more romance in you than a turnip. We will go ourselves and see what
befalls." "Very well, then," I answered, falling in with his humor, "we
will go ourselves." He brushed his face with his handkerchief, gave
himself a pull here and a pat there, and led the way down the alley. But
we had not gone far before he turned into a path that entered the grove
on the right, and to this likewise I made no protest. We soon found
ourselves in a heavenly spot,--sheltered from the sun's rays by a dense
verdure,--and no one who has not visited
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