From seanegan at gmail.com  Tue Nov  3 15:18:22 2009
From: seanegan at gmail.com (Sean Egan)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:18:22 -0800
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
Message-ID: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Board,

We are currently overdue for our annual board meeting.

Let us try to meet some time the week of the 24th or Dec 1st. These
two week straddle Thanksgiving, so let me know if either week is
better or worse for you. I'm thinking Tuesday evening EST, which is
the day and time we've met in the past.

>From now until the meeting, I am accepting items for the agenda, and
nominations for directors and officers. I do not wish to be
re-nominated as President this year; do speak up if you do not wish to
be re-nominated for your current directorship of officership, so we
know which roles we need to fill.

Here's a rough, informal initial agenda. Let me know if there are
additions you would like to add.

1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes
4. Treasurer's financial report
5. Election of directors and officers
6. Vote to amend Article I of the by-laws to change the address of the
corporation
7. Adjournment

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From luke at schierer.org  Tue Nov  3 20:49:35 2009
From: luke at schierer.org (Luke Schierer)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:49:35 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091104014935.GA11546@gabriel.twocrazyguys.net>

Note, the discussions list is open and anyone willing to be considered
for a possition on the board can step up there.

Luke

On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 12:18:22PM -0800, Sean Egan wrote:
> Hello Board,
> 
> We are currently overdue for our annual board meeting.
> 
> Let us try to meet some time the week of the 24th or Dec 1st. These
> two week straddle Thanksgiving, so let me know if either week is
> better or worse for you. I'm thinking Tuesday evening EST, which is
> the day and time we've met in the past.
> 
> From now until the meeting, I am accepting items for the agenda, and
> nominations for directors and officers. I do not wish to be
> re-nominated as President this year; do speak up if you do not wish to
> be re-nominated for your current directorship of officership, so we
> know which roles we need to fill.
> 
> Here's a rough, informal initial agenda. Let me know if there are
> additions you would like to add.
> 
> 1. Call to Order
> 2. Roll Call
> 3. Approval of Minutes
> 4. Treasurer's financial report
> 5. Election of directors and officers
> 6. Vote to amend Article I of the by-laws to change the address of the
> corporation
> 7. Adjournment

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From elb at pidgin.im  Tue Nov  3 23:04:07 2009
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:04:07 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091104040406.GA21455@colt>

Sean Egan spake unto us the following wisdom:
> Let us try to meet some time the week of the 24th or Dec 1st. These
> two week straddle Thanksgiving, so let me know if either week is
> better or worse for you. I'm thinking Tuesday evening EST, which is
> the day and time we've met in the past.

I am currently unaware of any specific conflicts during this time
period; obviously the 25th, 26th, and 27th are likely to be bad.
Either Tuesday is workable.

> >From now until the meeting, I am accepting items for the agenda, and
> nominations for directors and officers. I do not wish to be
> re-nominated as President this year; do speak up if you do not wish to
> be re-nominated for your current directorship of officership, so we
> know which roles we need to fill.

Zac West has approached me about Adium joining IMF.  They wish to join
our umbrella, and are willing to provide financial and manpower
support to IMF in return.  I think we should take a vote on whether or
not we wish to accept the Adium project as an official addition to
IMF.  I have attached a copy of his rough proposal, with his
permission.  (Note that we voted to invite Adium to join IMF in 2005
or so, so I don't anticipate this being controversial.)

I would also like to discuss either engaging the donation system or
letting the processing mechanism die; perhaps set a hard deadline by
which point we must either have donations working, or cancel the
processing.  (One of the two processing fees is no longer showing up
on our accounts anyway, probably due to a snafu in our bank
changeover.)

Finally, I would like to discuss an extension of the board to include
two new members.  Response times for "active" members are long, and
the number of inactive members is growing.  If we want to keep IMF
healthy, we need an active board; one way to do this is member
turnover, and another is ensuring a large enough board that a quorum
can be reached effectively.

Note that we don't have to *do* anything with either of the latter two
items during the meeting, necessarily.  If people are interested, I
can hammer together statements for an official vote during the
meeting, or we can discuss them at the meeting, between now and the
meeting, or in some other time frame, and vote by email.

Regarding Adium, I suggest that we vote during the meeting on
inclusion, and finalize the details between ourselves and Adium after
the fact.

I am ambivalent about keeping the position of Treasurer.  If someone
wants it, let me (or the board) know.  I am also willing to keep this
position.  I am likewise willing to continue on the board.

Ethan

-- 
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
		-- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764
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From luke at schierer.org  Wed Nov  4 07:35:24 2009
From: luke at schierer.org (Luke Schierer)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:35:24 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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On Nov 3, 2009, at 23:04 EST, Ethan Blanton wrote:

> Sean Egan spake unto us the following wisdom:
>> Let us try to meet some time the week of the 24th or Dec 1st. These
>> two week straddle Thanksgiving, so let me know if either week is
>> better or worse for you. I'm thinking Tuesday evening EST, which is
>> the day and time we've met in the past.
>
> I am currently unaware of any specific conflicts during this time
> period; obviously the 25th, 26th, and 27th are likely to be bad.
> Either Tuesday is workable.
>
>>> From now until the meeting, I am accepting items for the agenda, and
>> nominations for directors and officers. I do not wish to be
>> re-nominated as President this year; do speak up if you do not wish  
>> to
>> be re-nominated for your current directorship of officership, so we
>> know which roles we need to fill.
>
> Zac West has approached me about Adium joining IMF.  They wish to join
> our umbrella, and are willing to provide financial and manpower
> support to IMF in return.  I think we should take a vote on whether or
> not we wish to accept the Adium project as an official addition to
> IMF.  I have attached a copy of his rough proposal, with his
> permission.  (Note that we voted to invite Adium to join IMF in 2005
> or so, so I don't anticipate this being controversial.)

I would have sworn that adium already was under our umbrella.

Luke


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From elb at pidgin.im  Wed Nov  4 09:47:32 2009
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:47:32 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <5C717AF5-A184-4DB3-8A57-0503ACDFE8E3@schierer.org>
References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091104040406.GA21455@colt>
	<5C717AF5-A184-4DB3-8A57-0503ACDFE8E3@schierer.org>
Message-ID: <20091104144732.GB29097@colt>

Luke Schierer spake unto us the following wisdom:
>> Zac West has approached me about Adium joining IMF.  They wish to join
>> our umbrella, and are willing to provide financial and manpower
>> support to IMF in return.  I think we should take a vote on whether or
>> not we wish to accept the Adium project as an official addition to
>> IMF.  I have attached a copy of his rough proposal, with his
>> permission.  (Note that we voted to invite Adium to join IMF in 2005
>> or so, so I don't anticipate this being controversial.)
>
> I would have sworn that adium already was under our umbrella.

We offered them a position, but they turned it down, citing concerns
that IMF would try to control development and generally cramp their
style.

Ethan

-- 
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for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
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From luke at schierer.org  Wed Nov  4 14:25:50 2009
From: luke at schierer.org (Luke Schierer)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:25:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
	<EBCF4E26-5C23-4D44-9106-DE50161D2790@adium.im>
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>
> On Nov 3, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Sean Egan wrote:
>
>> Let us try to meet some time the week of the 24th or Dec 1st. These
>> two week straddle Thanksgiving, so let me know if either week is
>> better or worse for you. I'm thinking Tuesday evening EST, which is
>> the day and time we've met in the past.
>
> Tues, Nov 24th, evening EST would work well for me.  I am unable to
> predict if I could attend a meeting on Tues Dec 1st, as I may be on
> call in the ICU.
>
> If Dec 1st is better for others, however, I can ask Zac West to
> present both as my proxy and on behalf of Adium, as (as noted by
> Ethan), we would like to discuss a proposal to add Adium to the IMF
> umbrella.
>
> -Evan
>

I certainly cannot do Dec 1st.  I need to check if I can do the 24th. 
Tuesdays are, in general, bad for me.

Luke


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From luke at schierer.org  Wed Nov  4 18:04:21 2009
From: luke at schierer.org (Luke Schierer)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:04:21 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <c395ce28be8c52bebcc04e6e2524a387.squirrel@webmail.twocrazyguys.net>
References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
	<EBCF4E26-5C23-4D44-9106-DE50161D2790@adium.im>
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On Nov 4, 2009, at 14:25 EST, Luke Schierer wrote:

>>
>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Sean Egan wrote:
>>
>>> Let us try to meet some time the week of the 24th or Dec 1st. These
>>> two week straddle Thanksgiving, so let me know if either week is
>>> better or worse for you. I'm thinking Tuesday evening EST, which is
>>> the day and time we've met in the past.
>>
>> Tues, Nov 24th, evening EST would work well for me.  I am unable to
>> predict if I could attend a meeting on Tues Dec 1st, as I may be on
>> call in the ICU.
>>
>> If Dec 1st is better for others, however, I can ask Zac West to
>> present both as my proxy and on behalf of Adium, as (as noted by
>> Ethan), we would like to discuss a proposal to add Adium to the IMF
>> umbrella.
>>
>> -Evan
>>
>
> I certainly cannot do Dec 1st.  I need to check if I can do the 24th.
> Tuesdays are, in general, bad for me.
>
> Luke

I am able to meet on the 24th.

Luke

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From mark at kingant.net  Thu Nov  5 03:18:14 2009
From: mark at kingant.net (Mark Doliner)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:18:14 -0800
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55130ac0911050018r1690eb05x6185709787f02884@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Sean Egan <seanegan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Let us try to meet some time the week of the 24th or Dec 1st. These
> two week straddle Thanksgiving, so let me know if either week is
> better or worse for you. I'm thinking Tuesday evening EST, which is
> the day and time we've met in the past.

Thanksgiving week isn't great for me... could we try to find a time
the week of November 30th that works for Luke?  What about Monday,
Wednesday or Thursday evenings, or Saturday or Sunday around 11am EST?
 Any time the week of November 16th is also good with me.

> From now until the meeting, I am accepting items for the agenda, and
> nominations for directors and officers. I do not wish to be
> re-nominated as President this year; do speak up if you do not wish to
> be re-nominated for your current directorship of officership, so we
> know which roles we need to fill.

I'd like to be on the board again.  Either as vice-president again or
as a general board member (and specifically not as president).

-Mark

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From mark at kingant.net  Thu Nov  5 03:18:19 2009
From: mark at kingant.net (Mark Doliner)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:18:19 -0800
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20091104040406.GA21455@colt>
References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091104040406.GA21455@colt>
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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Ethan Blanton <elb at pidgin.im> wrote:
>> >From now until the meeting, I am accepting items for the agenda, and
>> nominations for directors and officers. I do not wish to be
>> re-nominated as President this year; do speak up if you do not wish to
>> be re-nominated for your current directorship of officership, so we
>> know which roles we need to fill.
>
> Zac West has approached me about Adium joining IMF. ?They wish to join
> our umbrella, and are willing to provide financial and manpower
> support to IMF in return. ?I think we should take a vote on whether or
> not we wish to accept the Adium project as an official addition to
> IMF. ?I have attached a copy of his rough proposal, with his
> permission. ?(Note that we voted to invite Adium to join IMF in 2005
> or so, so I don't anticipate this being controversial.)

I'm in favor of voting on this.  I like Adium, I like Zac and Evan,
and I love their proposal.

> I would also like to discuss either engaging the donation system or
> letting the processing mechanism die; perhaps set a hard deadline by
> which point we must either have donations working, or cancel the
> processing. ?(One of the two processing fees is no longer showing up
> on our accounts anyway, probably due to a snafu in our bank
> changeover.)
>
> Finally, I would like to discuss an extension of the board to include
> two new members. ?Response times for "active" members are long, and
> the number of inactive members is growing. ?If we want to keep IMF
> healthy, we need an active board; one way to do this is member
> turnover, and another is ensuring a large enough board that a quorum
> can be reached effectively.
>
> Note that we don't have to *do* anything with either of the latter two
> items during the meeting, necessarily. ?If people are interested, I
> can hammer together statements for an official vote during the
> meeting, or we can discuss them at the meeting, between now and the
> meeting, or in some other time frame, and vote by email.

I think it would be great if we could vote on these at the meeting.  I
think it would be more efficient than email voting.  But I certainly
won't hold it against you if you don't hammer together statements
beforehand.

> Regarding Adium, I suggest that we vote during the meeting on
> inclusion, and finalize the details between ourselves and Adium after
> the fact.

That sounds good to me.

-Mark

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From luke at schierer.org  Thu Nov  5 07:31:15 2009
From: luke at schierer.org (Luke Schierer)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:31:15 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
	<55130ac0911050018r1690eb05x6185709787f02884@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:18:14AM -0800, Mark Doliner wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Sean Egan <seanegan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Let us try to meet some time the week of the 24th or Dec 1st. These
> > two week straddle Thanksgiving, so let me know if either week is
> > better or worse for you. I'm thinking Tuesday evening EST, which is
> > the day and time we've met in the past.
> 
> Thanksgiving week isn't great for me... could we try to find a time
> the week of November 30th that works for Luke?  What about Monday,
> Wednesday or Thursday evenings, or Saturday or Sunday around 11am EST?
>  Any time the week of November 16th is also good with me.
> 
> > From now until the meeting, I am accepting items for the agenda, and
> > nominations for directors and officers. I do not wish to be
> > re-nominated as President this year; do speak up if you do not wish to
> > be re-nominated for your current directorship of officership, so we
> > know which roles we need to fill.
> 
> I'd like to be on the board again.  Either as vice-president again or
> as a general board member (and specifically not as president).
> 
> -Mark

Monday the 30th and Thurs the 3rd both work for me.  I can also do Sat
the 5th @ 11 EST.

Luke

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From evan at adium.im  Thu Nov  5 08:13:20 2009
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:13:20 -0600
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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On Nov 5, 2009, at 6:31 AM, Luke Schierer wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:18:14AM -0800, Mark Doliner wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Sean Egan <seanegan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Let us try to meet some time the week of the 24th or Dec 1st. These
>>> two week straddle Thanksgiving, so let me know if either week is
>>> better or worse for you. I'm thinking Tuesday evening EST, which is
>>> the day and time we've met in the past.
>>
>> Thanksgiving week isn't great for me... could we try to find a time
>> the week of November 30th that works for Luke?  What about Monday,
>> Wednesday or Thursday evenings, or Saturday or Sunday around 11am  
>> EST?
>> Any time the week of November 16th is also good with me.
>>
>>> From now until the meeting, I am accepting items for the agenda, and
>>> nominations for directors and officers. I do not wish to be
>>> re-nominated as President this year; do speak up if you do not  
>>> wish to
>>> be re-nominated for your current directorship of officership, so we
>>> know which roles we need to fill.
>>
>> I'd like to be on the board again.  Either as vice-president again or
>> as a general board member (and specifically not as president).
>>
>> -Mark
>
> Monday the 30th and Thurs the 3rd both work for me.  I can also do Sat
> the 5th @ 11 EST.

I couldn't commit to any of these times in advance.  I would love to  
stay on the board, but it may make sense for me to ask Zac to assume  
my chair, which he has offered to do, as it's sadly impossible for me  
to schedule obligations beyond the current month.

-Evan
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From rekkanoryo at rekkanoryo.org  Fri Nov  6 22:04:20 2009
From: rekkanoryo at rekkanoryo.org (John Bailey)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:04:20 -0500
Subject: New IM Freedom Board Members!
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Mark Doliner wrote:
> Hi!  The IM Freedom foundation will be holding a board meeting
> sometime in the next month and we're looking for new blood to be on
> the board.  There's some info about IMF at http://imfreedom.org/.  One
> popular question is "What do you do?!"  To which the answer is mostly
> "not much."  But you can help change that!  If you're a regular Pidgin
> contributor and are interested in this, please join the IMF Discussion
> mailing list[1] and send an email saying you're interested.  Or ask
> questions on IRC or our Jabber chatroom.  Or ask me.

I have already indicated to Ethan (and to the entire floor of
devel at conference.pidgin.im) on several occasions that I am willing to fill a
slot on the board.  I cannot fill an officer's position, though.

John

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From rekkanoryo at rekkanoryo.org  Fri Nov  6 22:10:00 2009
From: rekkanoryo at rekkanoryo.org (John Bailey)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:10:00 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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Mark Doliner wrote:
> I think it would be great if we could vote on these at the meeting.  I
> think it would be more efficient than email voting.  But I certainly
> won't hold it against you if you don't hammer together statements
> beforehand.

In addition to the items already discussed, I would also like the board to vote
on the acceptance of the Vulture project under the IMF umbrella.  While Vulture
has not reached release readiness yet, I would like to have all our ducks in a
row ASAP.  I don't have a proposal ready, but I'm sure there's no reason we
can't also use vulture.im to solicit donations (once we have said system in
place) directly into IMF's coffers.

John

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From elb at pidgin.im  Sat Nov  7 19:34:43 2009
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:34:43 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
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Nathan Walp spake unto us the following wisdom:
> Sean informs me that this email never made it through to the list back  
> in September when I sent it.  Sorry for not following up and verifying.

Yes, we had filtering problems -- basically, this list got so little
legitimate traffic that everything was being marked as spam.  I've
rolled it into the active lists' spam filters to prevent this in the
future.  Apologies.

> Nathan Walp wrote:
>> With sadness, I hearby tender my resignation from the Board of  
>> Directors of Instant Messaging Freedom, Inc. This resignation is  
>> effective immediately.
>>
>> Due to increased demands on my time, I have been unable to  
>> meaningfully contribute to Pidgin in quite a while.   Given my lack of  
>> recent contributions, and the mountain of paperwork I would need to  
>> fill out to continue an "outside directorship" at my day job,  
>> resignation seems like the appropriate course of action at this time.
>>
>> I wish everyone the best, and hope all the IM Freedom projects  
>> continue to prosper in the future.

I'm sorry to hear this, but wish you all the best in your current
endeavors.  I hope we see you back when life slows down.  Keep in
touch!

Ethan

-- 
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
		-- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764
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From elb at pidgin.im  Tue Nov 17 13:14:31 2009
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:14:31 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
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Sean Egan spake unto us the following wisdom:
> We are currently overdue for our annual board meeting.

... and it looks like we're going to continue that way.

> Let us try to meet some time the week of the 24th or Dec 1st. These
> two week straddle Thanksgiving, so let me know if either week is
> better or worse for you. I'm thinking Tuesday evening EST, which is
> the day and time we've met in the past.

Myself, Evan, and Luke indicated possible attendance next Tuesday, the
24th.  Presumably Sean can make it, as he sent this email.  Mark
indicated that it was inconvenient for him, but I wasn't clear if he
could make it if necessary.

Neither Luke nor Evan can make it on the 1st; I can, presumably Sean
can.

Nathan has stepped down, and did not indicate that he could attend
either meeting.

We require 4 members to make quorum; it sounds like the 24th is
possible, the 1st is probably not.  Do we want to go ahead and make it
the 24th, understanding that we have at least quorum?

> >From now until the meeting, I am accepting items for the agenda, and
> nominations for directors and officers. I do not wish to be
> re-nominated as President this year; do speak up if you do not wish to
> be re-nominated for your current directorship of officership, so we
> know which roles we need to fill.

So, for officers, we have the following positions and
nominations/volunteers:

President: <none>
Vice President: Mark Doliner
Treasurer: Ethan Blanton
Secretary: ?

(It is not clear whether Luke wishes to continue in his capacity as
secretary.

We also need to fill at least one seat, regardless of whether we add
seats to the board.  I nominate John Bailey for this position.

> Here's a rough, informal initial agenda. Let me know if there are
> additions you would like to add.
> 
> 1. Call to Order
> 2. Roll Call
> 3. Approval of Minutes
> 4. Treasurer's financial report
> 5. Election of directors and officers
> 6. Vote to amend Article I of the by-laws to change the address of the
> corporation
> 7. Adjournment

So far, we wish to vote on:

Accepting Adium into the IMF.
Accepting Vulture into the IMF.

I plan to also put together concrete proposals for the following,
although I understand time is getting short:

Adding two positions to the board, to be filled at a later date.
Setting a deadline for doing something about donations.

Ethan

-- 
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
		-- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764
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From mark at kingant.net  Tue Nov 17 13:29:08 2009
From: mark at kingant.net (Mark Doliner)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:29:08 -0800
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Ethan Blanton <elb at pidgin.im> wrote:
> Sean Egan spake unto us the following wisdom:
> We require 4 members to make quorum; it sounds like the 24th is
> possible, the 1st is probably not. ?Do we want to go ahead and make it
> the 24th, understanding that we have at least quorum?

I should be able to make it on the 24th--let's plan for that.  6pm EST?

> We also need to fill at least one seat, regardless of whether we add
> seats to the board. ?I nominate John Bailey for this position.

I second that (do we need to second stuff? I don't remember).

-Mark

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From mark at kingant.net  Tue Nov 17 13:47:22 2009
From: mark at kingant.net (Mark Doliner)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:47:22 -0800
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <5237E3BE-76A5-4705-987D-43E5C0436BB3@dreskin.net>
References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D.
<evan.s at dreskin.net> wrote:
> Alternately, would Monday, November 23rd work for the board?

Monday, November 23rd works for me.

-Mark

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From luke at schierer.org  Tue Nov 17 17:02:46 2009
From: luke at schierer.org (Luke Schierer)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:02:46 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <55130ac0911171047o7508590cm27648a1c764df140@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
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On Nov 17, 2009, at 13:47 EST, Mark Doliner wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D.
> <evan.s at dreskin.net> wrote:
>> Alternately, would Monday, November 23rd work for the board?
> 
> Monday, November 23rd works for me.
> 
> -Mark

I can do the 23rd or the 2nd or 3rd, but not the 1st or 4th.

Luke


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From luke at schierer.org  Tue Nov 17 18:39:40 2009
From: luke at schierer.org (Luke Schierer)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:39:40 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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On Nov 17, 2009, at 13:14 EST, Ethan Blanton wrote:

> Sean Egan spake unto us the following wisdom:
> 
>>> From now until the meeting, I am accepting items for the agenda, and
>> nominations for directors and officers. I do not wish to be
>> re-nominated as President this year; do speak up if you do not wish to
>> be re-nominated for your current directorship of officership, so we
>> know which roles we need to fill.
> 
> So, for officers, we have the following positions and
> nominations/volunteers:
> 
> President: <none>
> Vice President: Mark Doliner
> Treasurer: Ethan Blanton
> Secretary: ?

I am willing to continue as secretary.  But considering how little I do for any IMFreedom sponsored project (basically just some irregular routine server maintenance), I would understand if y'all wanted me to retire in favor of someone more active in open source instant messaging. 



> 
> (It is not clear whether Luke wishes to continue in his capacity as
> secretary.
> 
> We also need to fill at least one seat, regardless of whether we add
> seats to the board.  I nominate John Bailey for this position.

My understanding, with Sean and Nathan both stepping down, we need a minimum of two seats filled.  I second John's nomination for one of the two.

Do we have anyone willing to take on being President?

Luke

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From elb at pidgin.im  Tue Nov 17 18:45:26 2009
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:45:26 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <CF3BFCDD-D39A-4B90-A5D5-63CF512483C5@schierer.org>
References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091117181431.GA6948@colt>
	<CF3BFCDD-D39A-4B90-A5D5-63CF512483C5@schierer.org>
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Luke Schierer spake unto us the following wisdom:
> I am willing to continue as secretary.  But considering how little I
> do for any IMFreedom sponsored project (basically just some irregular
> routine server maintenance), I would understand if y'all wanted me to
> retire in favor of someone more active in open source instant
> messaging. 

I think you should continue, then.

> My understanding, with Sean and Nathan both stepping down, we need a
> minimum of two seats filled.  I second John's nomination for one of
> the two.

Sean offered to stay on the board, and we're making him do so.  ;-)

> Do we have anyone willing to take on being President?

This is indeed an excellent question.

Ethan

-- 
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
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From seanegan at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 20:25:25 2009
From: seanegan at gmail.com (Sean Egan)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:25:25 -0800
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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Any of these days is fine with me. It looks like almost everyone's
fine with the 23rd, 6pm est?

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Luke Schierer <luke at schierer.org> wrote:
>
> On Nov 17, 2009, at 13:47 EST, Mark Doliner wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D.
>> <evan.s at dreskin.net> wrote:
>>> Alternately, would Monday, November 23rd work for the board?
>>
>> Monday, November 23rd works for me.
>>
>> -Mark
>
> I can do the 23rd or the 2nd or 3rd, but not the 1st or 4th.
>
> Luke
>
>
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From elb at pidgin.im  Tue Nov 17 21:06:02 2009
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:06:02 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20091118020602.GA29835@colt>

Sean Egan spake unto us the following wisdom:
> Any of these days is fine with me. It looks like almost everyone's
> fine with the 23rd, 6pm est?

Looks like it's OK for the same set of people as the 24th.  You folks
just make up your minds and let me know.  :-P

Ethan

-- 
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
		-- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764
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From markster at digium.com  Tue Nov 17 23:45:16 2009
From: markster at digium.com (Mark Spencer)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:45:16 -0600 (CST)
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <55130ac0911171047o7508590cm27648a1c764df140@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <458853.521891258519516386.JavaMail.root@jupiler.digium.com>

Works for me any time other than 3pm CST.  Can someone send out a calendar invite when the date/time is finalized?

Mark Spencer          
Digium, Inc. | Founder and Chief Technology Officer     
445 Jan Davis Drive NW ? Huntsville, AL 35806 ? USA    
direct: +1 256-428-6275         
fax: +1 256-428-6057          
twitter: markster | skype: digium1  
Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org     
       

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Doliner" <mark at kingant.net>
To: "Evan Schoenberg, M.D." <evan.s at dreskin.net>
Cc: "Evan Schoenberg" <evan at adiumx.com>, "Luke Schierer" <luke at schierer.org>, "Nathan Walp" <faceprint at faceprint.com>, board at imfreedom.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:47:22 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: 2009 Board Meeting

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D.
<evan.s at dreskin.net> wrote:
> Alternately, would Monday, November 23rd work for the board?

Monday, November 23rd works for me.

-Mark

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From rekkanoryo at rekkanoryo.org  Thu Nov 19 19:33:04 2009
From: rekkanoryo at rekkanoryo.org (John Bailey)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:33:04 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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Ethan Blanton wrote:
> Sean Egan spake unto us the following wisdom:
>> Any of these days is fine with me. It looks like almost everyone's
>> fine with the 23rd, 6pm est?
> 
> Looks like it's OK for the same set of people as the 24th.  You folks
> just make up your minds and let me know.  :-P
> 
> Ethan

Yes, you guys do need to make up your minds. :-P

John

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From evan at adium.im  Fri Nov 20 08:33:58 2009
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:33:58 -0600
Subject: iCal event invitation: IMF Board Meeting
Message-ID: <8C5BD79B-80C7-47D9-A666-CB38995685E0@adium.im>

Evan Schoenberg has invited you to the iCal event: IMF Board Meeting, scheduled for November 23, 2009 at 5:00 PM (Central Standard Time). To accept or decline this invitation, click the link below.
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From seanegan at gmail.com  Mon Nov 23 15:23:30 2009
From: seanegan at gmail.com (Sean Egan)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:23:30 -0800
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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Ok, here's the final agenda for today's meeting:

1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes
4. Treasurer's financial report
5. Election of directors and officers
6. Vote to amend Article I of the by-laws to change the address of the
corporation
7 Vote to accept Adium under the IMF umbrella.
8 Vote to accepting Vulture under the IMF umbrella.
9. Adjournment

Also, I am willing to be considered again for president since nobody
else has volunteered. See you all this afternoon.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:33 PM, John Bailey <rekkanoryo at rekkanoryo.org> wrote:
> Ethan Blanton wrote:
>> Sean Egan spake unto us the following wisdom:
>>> Any of these days is fine with me. It looks like almost everyone's
>>> fine with the 23rd, 6pm est?
>>
>> Looks like it's OK for the same set of people as the 24th. ?You folks
>> just make up your minds and let me know. ?:-P
>>
>> Ethan
>
> Yes, you guys do need to make up your minds. :-P
>
> John
>
>
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From evan at adium.im  Mon Nov 23 15:31:18 2009
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:31:18 -0600
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
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On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Sean Egan wrote:

> Ok, here's the final agenda for today's meeting:
> 
> 1. Call to Order
> 2. Roll Call
> 3. Approval of Minutes
> 4. Treasurer's financial report
> 5. Election of directors and officers
> 6. Vote to amend Article I of the by-laws to change the address of the
> corporation
> 7 Vote to accept Adium under the IMF umbrella.

If Adium is accepted, I would also like to vote on a proposal to allow Adium to establish an Apple iPhone Developer account as a business under IMF's articles of incorporation.  I'm not entirely sure if this needs a vote, but I think to be completely transparent it's best if there is one.

-Evan

> 8 Vote to accepting Vulture under the IMF umbrella.
> 9. Adjournment
> 
> Also, I am willing to be considered again for president since nobody
> else has volunteered. See you all this afternoon.

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From seanegan at gmail.com  Mon Nov 23 15:44:24 2009
From: seanegan at gmail.com (Sean Egan)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:44:24 -0800
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <e61d333f0911231243g5cf78955sfc90d5b9ce564f0d@mail.gmail.com>
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reply-all

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sean Egan <seanegan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately, the cut-off for adding items to the agenda is no less
> than one week prior to the meeting date.
>
> We can call for an e-mail vote on this afterwards.
>
> -s.
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Sean Egan wrote:
>>
>> Ok, here's the final agenda for today's meeting:
>>
>> 1. Call to Order
>> 2. Roll Call
>> 3. Approval of Minutes
>> 4. Treasurer's financial report
>> 5. Election of directors and officers
>> 6. Vote to amend Article I of the by-laws to change the address of the
>> corporation
>> 7 Vote to accept Adium under the IMF umbrella.
>>
>> If Adium is accepted, I would also like to vote on a proposal to allow Adium
>> to establish an Apple iPhone Developer account as a business under IMF's
>> articles of incorporation. ?I'm not entirely sure if this needs?a vote, but
>> I think to be completely transparent it's best if there is one.
>> -Evan
>>
>> 8 Vote to accepting Vulture under the IMF umbrella.
>> 9. Adjournment
>>
>> Also, I am willing to be considered again for president since nobody
>> else has volunteered. See you all this afternoon.
>>
>


From evan at adium.im  Mon Nov 23 15:49:04 2009
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:49:04 -0600
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <e61d333f0911231244j72c0bb8eq34b4ae32721edfe8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e61d333f0911031218o6817a544rde3debaeff61df32@mail.gmail.com>
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Ah, no problem.  I do remember that, now that you mention it.  Zac and I just determined this was an action item last night.

-Evan

On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Sean Egan wrote:

> reply-all
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sean Egan <seanegan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Unfortunately, the cut-off for adding items to the agenda is no less
>> than one week prior to the meeting date.
>> 
>> We can call for an e-mail vote on this afterwards.
>> 
>> -s.
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Sean Egan wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, here's the final agenda for today's meeting:
>>> 
>>> 1. Call to Order
>>> 2. Roll Call
>>> 3. Approval of Minutes
>>> 4. Treasurer's financial report
>>> 5. Election of directors and officers
>>> 6. Vote to amend Article I of the by-laws to change the address of the
>>> corporation
>>> 7 Vote to accept Adium under the IMF umbrella.
>>> 
>>> If Adium is accepted, I would also like to vote on a proposal to allow Adium
>>> to establish an Apple iPhone Developer account as a business under IMF's
>>> articles of incorporation.  I'm not entirely sure if this needs a vote, but
>>> I think to be completely transparent it's best if there is one.
>>> -Evan
>>> 
>>> 8 Vote to accepting Vulture under the IMF umbrella.
>>> 9. Adjournment
>>> 
>>> Also, I am willing to be considered again for president since nobody
>>> else has volunteered. See you all this afternoon.
>>> 
>> 


From elb at pidgin.im  Mon Nov 23 15:53:36 2009
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:53:36 -0500
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <e61d333f0911231244j72c0bb8eq34b4ae32721edfe8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5237E3BE-76A5-4705-987D-43E5C0436BB3@dreskin.net>
	<55130ac0911171047o7508590cm27648a1c764df140@mail.gmail.com>
	<19AD0019-F0EB-45AD-8AAA-129613DA8AB4@schierer.org>
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	<e61d333f0911231244j72c0bb8eq34b4ae32721edfe8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091123205336.GA15363@colt>

You guys need some more practice with email.

Sean Egan spake unto us the following wisdom:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sean Egan <seanegan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
> > > If Adium is accepted, I would also like to vote on a proposal to allow
> > > Adium to establish an Apple iPhone Developer account as a business
> > > under IMF's articles of incorporation. ?I'm not entirely sure if this
> > > needs?a vote, but I think to be completely transparent it's best if
> > > there is one.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the cut-off for adding items to the agenda is no less
> > than one week prior to the meeting date.
> >
> > We can call for an e-mail vote on this afterwards.

Before this email vote, I'd like to know a lot more about the nature
of an iPhone developer contract.  My understanding is that Apple
demands a number of concessions, but I've not looked into it myself.
If anyone has that information handy, passing it around would be
great.

Ethan

-- 
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
		-- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764
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From evan at adium.im  Mon Nov 23 16:02:07 2009
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:02:07 -0600
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20091123205336.GA15363@colt>
References: <5237E3BE-76A5-4705-987D-43E5C0436BB3@dreskin.net>
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Message-ID: <CCCA471B-ACAE-4B38-93A0-B93C4DB2CAA7@adium.im>


On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Ethan Blanton wrote:

> Sean Egan spake unto us the following wisdom:
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sean Egan <seanegan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
>>>> If Adium is accepted, I would also like to vote on a proposal to allow
>>>> Adium to establish an Apple iPhone Developer account as a business
>>>> under IMF's articles of incorporation.  I'm not entirely sure if this
>>>> needs a vote, but I think to be completely transparent it's best if
>>>> there is one.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, the cut-off for adding items to the agenda is no less
>>> than one week prior to the meeting date.
>>> 
>>> We can call for an e-mail vote on this afterwards.
> 
> Before this email vote, I'd like to know a lot more about the nature
> of an iPhone developer contract.  My understanding is that Apple
> demands a number of concessions, but I've not looked into it myself.
> If anyone has that information handy, passing it around would be
> great.

Excellent point I hadn't thoroughly considered.  Before any email vote is done, I'll have the details nailed down and prepared in both summary and raw form.

-Evan
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From markster at digium.com  Mon Nov 23 17:47:07 2009
From: markster at digium.com (Mark Spencer)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:47:07 -0600 (CST)
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <855E765D-7337-4C67-89F3-B887AEA0DCC6@adium.im>
Message-ID: <12834582.640231259016427324.JavaMail.root@jupiler.digium.com>

The invite doesn't include the method for joining the board meeting.  Can someone please refresh my memory?

Mark Spencer          
Digium, Inc. | Founder and Chief Technology Officer     
445 Jan Davis Drive NW ? Huntsville, AL 35806 ? USA    
direct: +1 256-428-6275         
fax: +1 256-428-6057          
twitter: markster | skype: digium1  
Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org     
       

----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Schoenberg, M.D." <evan at adium.im>
To: "Sean Egan" <seanegan at gmail.com>
Cc: discussion at imfreedom.org, board at imfreedom.org
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:49:04 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: 2009 Board Meeting

Ah, no problem.  I do remember that, now that you mention it.  Zac and I just determined this was an action item last night.

-Evan

On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Sean Egan wrote:

> reply-all
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sean Egan <seanegan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Unfortunately, the cut-off for adding items to the agenda is no less
>> than one week prior to the meeting date.
>> 
>> We can call for an e-mail vote on this afterwards.
>> 
>> -s.
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Sean Egan wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, here's the final agenda for today's meeting:
>>> 
>>> 1. Call to Order
>>> 2. Roll Call
>>> 3. Approval of Minutes
>>> 4. Treasurer's financial report
>>> 5. Election of directors and officers
>>> 6. Vote to amend Article I of the by-laws to change the address of the
>>> corporation
>>> 7 Vote to accept Adium under the IMF umbrella.
>>> 
>>> If Adium is accepted, I would also like to vote on a proposal to allow Adium
>>> to establish an Apple iPhone Developer account as a business under IMF's
>>> articles of incorporation.  I'm not entirely sure if this needs a vote, but
>>> I think to be completely transparent it's best if there is one.
>>> -Evan
>>> 
>>> 8 Vote to accepting Vulture under the IMF umbrella.
>>> 9. Adjournment
>>> 
>>> Also, I am willing to be considered again for president since nobody
>>> else has volunteered. See you all this afternoon.
>>> 
>> 

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From mark at kingant.net  Mon Nov 23 17:55:58 2009
From: mark at kingant.net (Mark Doliner)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:55:58 -0800
Subject: 2009 Board Meeting
In-Reply-To: <12834582.640231259016427324.JavaMail.root@jupiler.digium.com>
References: <855E765D-7337-4C67-89F3-B887AEA0DCC6@adium.im>
	<12834582.640231259016427324.JavaMail.root@jupiler.digium.com>
Message-ID: <55130ac0911231455s36b17f23na33b26b52e32298b@mail.gmail.com>

Yep, join the jabber conference boardroom at conference.pidgin.im

-Mark

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com> wrote:
> The invite doesn't include the method for joining the board meeting. ?Can someone please refresh my memory?
>
> Mark Spencer
> Digium, Inc. | Founder and Chief Technology Officer
> 445 Jan Davis Drive NW ? Huntsville, AL 35806 ? USA
> direct: +1 256-428-6275
> fax: +1 256-428-6057
> twitter: markster | skype: digium1
> Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Evan Schoenberg, M.D." <evan at adium.im>
> To: "Sean Egan" <seanegan at gmail.com>
> Cc: discussion at imfreedom.org, board at imfreedom.org
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:49:04 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: 2009 Board Meeting
>
> Ah, no problem. ?I do remember that, now that you mention it. ?Zac and I just determined this was an action item last night.
>
> -Evan
>
> On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Sean Egan wrote:
>
>> reply-all
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sean Egan <seanegan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, the cut-off for adding items to the agenda is no less
>>> than one week prior to the meeting date.
>>>
>>> We can call for an e-mail vote on this afterwards.
>>>
>>> -s.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Sean Egan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, here's the final agenda for today's meeting:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Call to Order
>>>> 2. Roll Call
>>>> 3. Approval of Minutes
>>>> 4. Treasurer's financial report
>>>> 5. Election of directors and officers
>>>> 6. Vote to amend Article I of the by-laws to change the address of the
>>>> corporation
>>>> 7 Vote to accept Adium under the IMF umbrella.
>>>>
>>>> If Adium is accepted, I would also like to vote on a proposal to allow Adium
>>>> to establish an Apple iPhone Developer account as a business under IMF's
>>>> articles of incorporation. ?I'm not entirely sure if this needs a vote, but
>>>> I think to be completely transparent it's best if there is one.
>>>> -Evan
>>>>
>>>> 8 Vote to accepting Vulture under the IMF umbrella.
>>>> 9. Adjournment
>>>>
>>>> Also, I am willing to be considered again for president since nobody
>>>> else has volunteered. See you all this afternoon.
>>>>
>>>
>
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From luke at schierer.org  Mon Nov 23 19:09:28 2009
From: luke at schierer.org (Luke Schierer)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:09:28 -0500
Subject: Trademarks
Message-ID: <D88AD2EF-4EC5-4D7E-9519-1AD0E5F1BDD0@schierer.org>

Given the series of events that lead us to set up IMF and change from Gaim to Pidgin and libPurple, I propose that IMF file for Pidgin, Finch, Adium and libPurple trademarks.  

Per the by-laws, voting on this does not start until 2009-11-31.  

Luke
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From evan at adium.im  Mon Nov 23 20:38:49 2009
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:38:49 -0600
Subject: Trademarks
In-Reply-To: <D88AD2EF-4EC5-4D7E-9519-1AD0E5F1BDD0@schierer.org>
References: <D88AD2EF-4EC5-4D7E-9519-1AD0E5F1BDD0@schierer.org>
Message-ID: <35EEEFFD-7C7F-4716-A78D-6592259411C2@adium.im>


On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Luke Schierer wrote:

> Given the series of events that lead us to set up IMF and change from Gaim to Pidgin and libPurple, I propose that IMF file for Pidgin, Finch, Adium and libPurple trademarks.  
> 
> Per the by-laws, voting on this does not start until 2009-11-31.  

I second this motion.

-Evan
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From smartsairam at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 09:29:30 2009
From: smartsairam at gmail.com (sai ram)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:59:30 +0530
Subject: clarification in libpurple
Message-ID: <8ffddc5d0911240629y6247f72dw456935789a7ce43e@mail.gmail.com>

hi,
    we are trying to develop a product which include myspace as a part. we
like to use libpurple and its files to facilitate instant messaging between
clients. can u clarify us what are the minimal files which we should use
from this libpurple library to facilitate a basic im between two clients ?
awaiting for the reply.


Thanks & Regards,
Sairam.
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From elb at pidgin.im  Tue Nov 24 11:01:54 2009
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:01:54 -0500
Subject: clarification in libpurple
In-Reply-To: <8ffddc5d0911240628s36ae81fen6fd7445460566ec6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8ffddc5d0911240628s36ae81fen6fd7445460566ec6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091124160154.GA20019@colt>

If you're going to spam a pile of mailing lists, please at least have
the courtesy to do so with a single message, so that Message-Ids will
be the same and de-duplication can be handled by more email-savvy
parties.

sai ram spake unto us the following wisdom:
>     we are trying to develop a product which include myspace as a part. we
> like to use libpurple and its files to facilitate instant messaging between
> clients. can u clarify us what are the minimal files which we should use
> from this libpurple library to facilitate a basic im between two clients ?
> awaiting for the reply.

Libpurple is intended to be used as a complete library.  You build
libpurple and link against it, you don't pull files out of it and use
them independently.

NOTE WELL that any product you create which uses libpurple MUST BE
released as open source software under a GPL-compatible license.

Ethan

-- 
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
determined to commit crimes.
		-- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764
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From chris at growl.info  Tue Nov 24 12:03:01 2009
From: chris at growl.info (Christopher Forsythe)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:03:01 -0600
Subject: clarification in libpurple
In-Reply-To: <8ffddc5d0911240630u635fec95jdc0684e0c55ca1cf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8ffddc5d0911240630u635fec95jdc0684e0c55ca1cf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7fba580c0911240903q2b5084beuce9fd22451bb5362@mail.gmail.com>

Are you asking for a list of files to add in, or something else? Asking for
a list of files seems like you're asking someone to do your work for you,
rather than you doing the work yourself. If that's not the case, please
clarify as to what you are asking as it is not clear at the moment.

Chris

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:30 AM, sai ram <smartsairam at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi,
>     we are trying to develop a product which include myspace as a part. we
> like to use libpurple and its files to facilitate instant messaging between
> clients. can u clarify us what are the minimal files which we should use
> from this libpurple library to facilitate a basic im between two clients ?
> awaiting for the reply.
>
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Sairam.
> _______________________________________________
> Openim mailing list
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From smartsairam at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 00:56:41 2009
From: smartsairam at gmail.com (sai ram)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:26:41 +0530
Subject: clarification in libpurple
In-Reply-To: <20091124160154.GA20019@colt>
References: <8ffddc5d0911240628s36ae81fen6fd7445460566ec6@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091124160154.GA20019@colt>
Message-ID: <8ffddc5d0911242156w5603159ex8e9181a6699e7504@mail.gmail.com>

hello,
   ya we are about to release our product as open source, but can u clarify
me how can i build this libpurple library ?  also i just need to know
whether i can use the apis independently from this library  ?


Thanks & Regards,
Sairam.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Ethan Blanton <elb at pidgin.im> wrote:

> If you're going to spam a pile of mailing lists, please at least have
> the courtesy to do so with a single message, so that Message-Ids will
> be the same and de-duplication can be handled by more email-savvy
> parties.
>
> sai ram spake unto us the following wisdom:
> >     we are trying to develop a product which include myspace as a part.
> we
> > like to use libpurple and its files to facilitate instant messaging
> between
> > clients. can u clarify us what are the minimal files which we should use
> > from this libpurple library to facilitate a basic im between two clients
> ?
> > awaiting for the reply.
>
> Libpurple is intended to be used as a complete library.  You build
> libpurple and link against it, you don't pull files out of it and use
> them independently.
>
> NOTE WELL that any product you create which uses libpurple MUST BE
> released as open source software under a GPL-compatible license.
>
> Ethan
>
> --
> The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
> for evils].  They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
> determined to commit crimes.
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From lschiere at pidgin.im  Sun Nov 22 15:24:05 2009
From: lschiere at pidgin.im (Luke Schierer)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:24:05 -0500
Subject: 2008 meeting minutes
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For reference, although I will present the minutes formally at the meeting tomorrow, a transcript of the last meeting, and a draft of the meeting minutes.

Luke

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