From evan at adium.im  Thu Oct 21 00:14:13 2010
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:14:13 -0500
Subject: Adium and the Mac App Store
Message-ID: <A476A138-B3B5-4688-B934-E2A2CC4A7D4D@adium.im>

Today, Apple announced the Mac App Store, a managed software distribution mechanism akin to the iOS App Store used on iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad.  As with the iOS app store, for more than one developer to have access to the distribution system, the registration must be done as a Company rather than an Individual account.

The Adium team plans to submit Adium to this new store.  We're still discussing the terms under which we would list it, but this certainly will be inclusive, not exclusive; Adium will of course continue to be available for download in source and binary forms from the adium.im website.

I propose registering that Instant Messaging Freedom, Inc., registers with the Mac App Store, for the express purpose of listing Adium on that store.  The Pidgin Mac OS X port could also potentially be listed through the same account, if the Pidgin team wanted to do so.  

Registering as a company appears to be straightforward, though I have not done it previously. (I sell a number of commercial apps on the iOS App Store but am registered as a Sole Proprietor there).  They do state that they take a number of measures to ensure that companies are who they say they are, and that the individual registering does represent that company.

The obligations of IMF for registering would be minimal, and if the board agrees, I would take full responsibility for them insofar as my position on the board allows.  A license agreement, and potentially other related agreements, would need to be electronically signed on behalf of IMF.  

If acceptable to the other board members, I can manage registration and accept reasonable agreements as an IMF board member; I would forward such agreements to the board at large for reference.  Alternately, agreements could be sent to the email list for approval by vote prior to signing, though this would be more time consuming for the board.

Cheers,
Evan
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From rekkanoryo at pidgin.im  Thu Oct 21 00:28:40 2010
From: rekkanoryo at pidgin.im (John Bailey)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:28:40 -0400
Subject: Adium and the Mac App Store
In-Reply-To: <A476A138-B3B5-4688-B934-E2A2CC4A7D4D@adium.im>
References: <A476A138-B3B5-4688-B934-E2A2CC4A7D4D@adium.im>
Message-ID: <4CBFC178.5000507@pidgin.im>

On 10/21/2010 12:14 AM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. wrote:
> Today, Apple announced the Mac App Store, a managed software distribution mechanism akin to the iOS App Store used on iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad.  As with the iOS app store, for more than one developer to have access to the distribution system, the registration must be done as a Company rather than an Individual account.
> 
> The Adium team plans to submit Adium to this new store.  We're still discussing the terms under which we would list it, but this certainly will be inclusive, not exclusive; Adium will of course continue to be available for download in source and binary forms from the adium.im website.
> 
> I propose registering that Instant Messaging Freedom, Inc., registers with the Mac App Store, for the express purpose of listing Adium on that store.  The Pidgin Mac OS X port could also potentially be listed through the same account, if the Pidgin team wanted to do so.  
> 
> Registering as a company appears to be straightforward, though I have not done it previously. (I sell a number of commercial apps on the iOS App Store but am registered as a Sole Proprietor there).  They do state that they take a number of measures to ensure that companies are who they say they are, and that the individual registering does represent that company.
> 
> The obligations of IMF for registering would be minimal, and if the board agrees, I would take full responsibility for them insofar as my position on the board allows.  A license agreement, and potentially other related agreements, would need to be electronically signed on behalf of IMF.  
> 
> If acceptable to the other board members, I can manage registration and accept reasonable agreements as an IMF board member; I would forward such agreements to the board at large for reference.  Alternately, agreements could be sent to the email list for approval by vote prior to signing, though this would be more time consuming for the board.

If this new app store is anything even remotely like the iPhone OS app store,
then the terms of the agreement require that it is kept secret.  Considering
that all board activity is publicly archived, discussion of the terms would thus
be impossible without being in breach of the contract that agreement represents.

John

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From evan at adium.im  Thu Oct 21 19:40:23 2010
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:40:23 -0500
Subject: Articles of incorporation or other identifying document
Message-ID: <B433AE14-3F4A-4699-BCF0-7F1824EA852D@adium.im>

Sean or Luke,

Could I please have a copy of the IMF articles of incorporation, charter document, or certificate of formation?

Thanks,
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From elb at pidgin.im  Thu Oct 21 21:16:54 2010
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:16:54 -0400
Subject: Articles of incorporation or other identifying document
In-Reply-To: <B433AE14-3F4A-4699-BCF0-7F1824EA852D@adium.im>
References: <B433AE14-3F4A-4699-BCF0-7F1824EA852D@adium.im>
Message-ID: <20101022011654.GB19957@colt>

Evan Schoenberg, M.D. spake unto us the following wisdom:
> Could I please have a copy of the IMF articles of incorporation,
> charter document, or certificate of formation?

I forwarded Evan a copy of our incorporation documents privately, as
they contain private contact information etc.  Any board member is of
course welcome to view any documents I can find, but some of them are
best not broadcast simply because they have home addresses,
signatures, etc. on them.  I am happy to provide their text with such
private information redacted to anyone who asks, as time allows.

For what purpose do you need this information?  The incorporation
paperwork is all pretty generic stuff, it says things like "this
corporation will be formed to do anything it can legally do", "this
corporation will have a board of directors", etc.

Ethan
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From evan at adium.im  Fri Oct 22 18:40:15 2010
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 17:40:15 -0500
Subject: Articles of incorporation or other identifying document
In-Reply-To: <20101022011654.GB19957@colt>
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	<20101022011654.GB19957@colt>
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On Oct 21, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Ethan Blanton wrote:

> Evan Schoenberg, M.D. spake unto us the following wisdom:
>> Could I please have a copy of the IMF articles of incorporation,
>> charter document, or certificate of formation?
> 
> I forwarded Evan a copy of our incorporation documents privately, as
> they contain private contact information etc.  

Thank you, Ethan.

> Any board member is of
> course welcome to view any documents I can find, but some of them are
> best not broadcast simply because they have home addresses,
> signatures, etc. on them.  I am happy to provide their text with such
> private information redacted to anyone who asks, as time allows.
> 
> For what purpose do you need this information?  The incorporation
> paperwork is all pretty generic stuff, it says things like "this
> corporation will be formed to do anything it can legally do", "this
> corporation will have a board of directors", etc.

This is related to the Mac App Store I mentioned in my previous email.  The initial verification process requests one of:

> Articles of incorporation
> Business license
> Certificate of Formation
> Charter documents
> Operating Agreement
> Partnership papers
> Reseller or vendor license


to validate the identity of the corporation or business.

-Evan
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From elb at pidgin.im  Fri Oct 22 19:34:28 2010
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:34:28 -0400
Subject: Articles of incorporation or other identifying document
In-Reply-To: <B7D7255D-9851-4388-95E2-8D3379003515@adium.im>
References: <B433AE14-3F4A-4699-BCF0-7F1824EA852D@adium.im>
	<20101022011654.GB19957@colt>
	<B7D7255D-9851-4388-95E2-8D3379003515@adium.im>
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Evan Schoenberg, M.D. spake unto us the following wisdom:
> > For what purpose do you need this information?  The incorporation
> > paperwork is all pretty generic stuff, it says things like "this
> > corporation will be formed to do anything it can legally do", "this
> > corporation will have a board of directors", etc.
> 
> This is related to the Mac App Store I mentioned in my previous email.
> The initial verification process requests one of:

OK.  We really need to examine an approve of the agrements as a board.
In particular, the iOS app store has some ugly terms.

Ethan
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From evan at adium.im  Fri Oct 22 20:04:11 2010
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:04:11 -0500
Subject: Articles of incorporation or other identifying document
In-Reply-To: <20101022233428.GB27430@colt>
References: <B433AE14-3F4A-4699-BCF0-7F1824EA852D@adium.im>
	<20101022011654.GB19957@colt>
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On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Ethan Blanton wrote:

> Evan Schoenberg, M.D. spake unto us the following wisdom:
>>> For what purpose do you need this information?  The incorporation
>>> paperwork is all pretty generic stuff, it says things like "this
>>> corporation will be formed to do anything it can legally do", "this
>>> corporation will have a board of directors", etc.
>> 
>> This is related to the Mac App Store I mentioned in my previous email.
>> The initial verification process requests one of:
> 
> OK.  We really need to examine an approve of the agrements as a board.
> In particular, the iOS app store has some ugly terms.

Absolutely.  This stage of the process doesn't involve any agreements; once they've verified that we are who we say we are, I'll be be presented with the first agreement of the process.  I'll forward it along before taking any action on it.

-Evan
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From seanegan at gmail.com  Thu Oct 28 13:46:37 2010
From: seanegan at gmail.com (Sean Egan)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:46:37 -0700
Subject: Apple's Mac Developer Prorgam license agreement
In-Reply-To: <A7855C82-5DA1-4140-A25E-7CEDEC79D5CE@adium.im>
References: <A7855C82-5DA1-4140-A25E-7CEDEC79D5CE@adium.im>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin+OF-UkN8iAOLinnXG=wJpOUyF1kM-KQCSd9Uk@mail.gmail.com>

I will forward this to Karen at softwarefreedom.org and see what she thinks.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
> Fellow Board Members,
>
> Attached is the Mac Developer Program license agreement which I propose to enter into as a representative of and on behalf of IMF. ?Doing so is a prerequisite to participating in the Mac App Store as well as to Adium having access to various resources that Apple offers its paid-program developers.
>
>
>
>
> I am not a lawyer, but I don't see anything offensive in the agreement. ?I'd appreciate timely feedback so we can proceed, if possible.
>
> Cheers,
> Evan
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From elb at pidgin.im  Thu Oct 28 13:52:53 2010
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:52:53 -0400
Subject: Apple's Mac Developer Prorgam license agreement
In-Reply-To: <A7855C82-5DA1-4140-A25E-7CEDEC79D5CE@adium.im>
References: <A7855C82-5DA1-4140-A25E-7CEDEC79D5CE@adium.im>
Message-ID: <20101028175253.GA24684@colt>

Evan Schoenberg, M.D. spake unto us the following wisdom:
> Attached is the Mac Developer Program license agreement which I
> propose to enter into as a representative of and on behalf of IMF. 
> Doing so is a prerequisite to participating in the Mac App Store as
> well as to Adium having access to various resources that Apple offers
> its paid-program developers.


Thank you for providing this.

I have no particular problem with this agreement.  It does contain
some annoying clauses, and things that I would require to have some
oversight, but only one may be a show stopper, and that's Adium's
problem to figure out.  In particular:

1) We are required to oversee the usage of Apple Development
   software/documentation/etc. by those authorized by IMF Inc to use
   said materials.  (p. 5, 3.1c) In my mind, this simply means that we
   need to make sure that access to the paid materials is kept on a
   very short leash.  I would make this a condition of entry.  (For
   example, that you oversee such materials personally, Evan.) I don't
   want IMF Inc to have liability because some random Adium developer
   I don't know posts a PDF on a blog.

2) Apple can change the agreement at any time, and the new agreement
   must be accepted before development may continue under the program.
   (p. 9) I would require that IMF Inc approve this each time, it
   cannot just be rubber stamped.

3) Apple will be receiving a license to use 'libpurple' in promotional
   materials.  (p. 18) I'm not super happy about that, but neither am
   I torn up about it.  They will also of course be receiving a
   license to use 'Adium' in promotional materials, but I don't view
   that as something IMF Inc should have a particular position on.

4) (potential show stopper) While Apple says that FOSS is acceptable
   and makes reasonable FOSS protections, the EULA addendum says that
   "The license granted to the end-user for th Licensed Application
   must be limited to a non-transferable license to use the Licensed
   Application on a Mac Product that the end user owns and
   controls[...]".  (p. 22) This is incompatible with the GPL.  I
   don't think Apple will allow a GPL product to be shipped via the
   App Store.

> I am not a lawyer, but I don't see anything offensive in the
> agreement.  I'd appreciate timely feedback so we can proceed, if
> possible.

Note that I believe this will require a vote, which means we have to
give several weeks for votes to come in once we finalize on language.

Ethan
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From evan at adium.im  Thu Oct 28 21:42:21 2010
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:42:21 -0500
Subject: Apple's Mac Developer Prorgam license agreement
In-Reply-To: <20101028175253.GA24684@colt>
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On Oct 28, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Ethan Blanton wrote:

> Evan Schoenberg, M.D. spake unto us the following wisdom:
>> Attached is the Mac Developer Program license agreement which I
>> propose to enter into as a representative of and on behalf of IMF. 
>> Doing so is a prerequisite to participating in the Mac App Store as
>> well as to Adium having access to various resources that Apple offers
>> its paid-program developers.
> 
> 
> Thank you for providing this.
> 
> I have no particular problem with this agreement.  It does contain
> some annoying clauses, and things that I would require to have some
> oversight, but only one may be a show stopper, and that's Adium's
> problem to figure out.  In particular:
> 
> 1) We are required to oversee the usage of Apple Development
>   software/documentation/etc. by those authorized by IMF Inc to use
>   said materials.  (p. 5, 3.1c) In my mind, this simply means that we
>   need to make sure that access to the paid materials is kept on a
>   very short leash.  I would make this a condition of entry.  (For
>   example, that you oversee such materials personally, Evan.) I don't
>   want IMF Inc to have liability because some random Adium developer
>   I don't know posts a PDF on a blog.

I'd have no problem taking personal responsibility for this.  We wouldn't be opening up the account for use by any random Adium developers, both for legal reasons and for organizational ones .

> 2) Apple can change the agreement at any time, and the new agreement
>   must be accepted before development may continue under the program.
>   (p. 9) I would require that IMF Inc approve this each time, it
>   cannot just be rubber stamped.

This is reasonable.

> 
> 3) Apple will be receiving a license to use 'libpurple' in promotional
>   materials.  (p. 18) I'm not super happy about that, but neither am
>   I torn up about it.  They will also of course be receiving a
>   license to use 'Adium' in promotional materials, but I don't view
>   that as something IMF Inc should have a particular position on.

I understand the lack of enthusiasm.  If we went ahead with this and Adium were approved (2 big ifs), I can't envision Apple making use of the libpurple side of the license, in any case ? they advertise to typical end users, and typical end users see 'Adium' and never delve as far as the About box or developers' pages to learn about 'libpurple'.


> 4) (potential show stopper) While Apple says that FOSS is acceptable
>   and makes reasonable FOSS protections, the EULA addendum says that
>   "The license granted to the end-user for th Licensed Application
>   must be limited to a non-transferable license to use the Licensed
>   Application on a Mac Product that the end user owns and
>   controls[...]".  (p. 22) This is incompatible with the GPL.  I
>   don't think Apple will allow a GPL product to be shipped via the
>   App Store.

I'm afraid you're correct. I hadn't noticed that language previously.  Let's see what the lawyers have to say before passing judgement.

Cheers,
Evan

>> I am not a lawyer, but I don't see anything offensive in the
>> agreement.  I'd appreciate timely feedback so we can proceed, if
>> possible.
> 
> Note that I believe this will require a vote, which means we have to
> give several weeks for votes to come in once we finalize on language.
> 
> Ethan

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From seanegan at gmail.com  Thu Oct 28 22:07:38 2010
From: seanegan at gmail.com (Sean Egan)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:07:38 -0700
Subject: Apple's Mac Developer Prorgam license agreement
In-Reply-To: <DAC3CA0A-1489-4633-8E63-6FCD2DF865BC@adium.im>
References: <A7855C82-5DA1-4140-A25E-7CEDEC79D5CE@adium.im>
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On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
>> 3) Apple will be receiving a license to use 'libpurple' in promotional
>> ? materials. ?(p. 18) I'm not super happy about that, but neither am
>> ? I torn up about it. ?They will also of course be receiving a
>> ? license to use 'Adium' in promotional materials, but I don't view
>> ? that as something IMF Inc should have a particular position on.
>
> I understand the lack of enthusiasm. ?If we went ahead with this and Adium were approved (2 big ifs), I can't envision Apple making use of the libpurple side of the license, in any case ? they advertise to typical end users, and typical end users see 'Adium' and never delve as far as the About box or developers' pages to learn about 'libpurple'.

I actually disagree with Ethan on this point. Shouldn't anyone be able
to use 'libpurple,' 'Pidgin,' or 'Adium' in promotional materials that
refer to (non-forked) libpurple, Pidgin, or Adium?

>> 4) (potential show stopper) While Apple says that FOSS is acceptable
>> ? and makes reasonable FOSS protections, the EULA addendum says that
>> ? "The license granted to the end-user for th Licensed Application
>> ? must be limited to a non-transferable license to use the Licensed
>> ? Application on a Mac Product that the end user owns and
>> ? controls[...]". ?(p. 22) This is incompatible with the GPL. ?I
>> ? don't think Apple will allow a GPL product to be shipped via the
>> ? App Store.
>
> I'm afraid you're correct. I hadn't noticed that language previously. ?Let's see what the lawyers have to say before passing judgement.

Karen may look at it tomorrow, but probably not until next week. I
drew her attention to Schedule 1, and she acknowledges it may be a
problem, but we might be able to work something out.

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From elb at pidgin.im  Thu Oct 28 22:14:48 2010
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 22:14:48 -0400
Subject: Apple's Mac Developer Prorgam license agreement
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimaQKmVQDk58SBddAWTTEQ=js=MoiksMGNwn4Th@mail.gmail.com>
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	<20101028175253.GA24684@colt>
	<DAC3CA0A-1489-4633-8E63-6FCD2DF865BC@adium.im>
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Message-ID: <20101029021448.GA7416@colt>

Sean Egan spake unto us the following wisdom:
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
> >> 3) Apple will be receiving a license to use 'libpurple' in promotional
> >> ? materials. ?(p. 18) I'm not super happy about that, but neither am
> >> ? I torn up about it. ?They will also of course be receiving a
> >> ? license to use 'Adium' in promotional materials, but I don't view
> >> ? that as something IMF Inc should have a particular position on.
> >
> > I understand the lack of enthusiasm. ?If we went ahead with this and
> > Adium were approved (2 big ifs), I can't envision Apple making use of
> > the libpurple side of the license, in any case ? they advertise to
> > typical end users, and typical end users see 'Adium' and never delve
> > as far as the About box or developers' pages to learn about
> > 'libpurple'.
> 
> I actually disagree with Ethan on this point. Shouldn't anyone be able
> to use 'libpurple,' 'Pidgin,' or 'Adium' in promotional materials that
> refer to (non-forked) libpurple, Pidgin, or Adium?

Well, that's actually a very good point.  I guess it was offending me
to give an explicit license to a commercial entity, but since our
general policy is that we allow such references to the non-forked
product under an implicit license, it doesn't make much difference,
does it?

I withdraw my concern.

Ethan
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From evan at adium.im  Thu Oct 28 01:02:05 2010
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 00:02:05 -0500
Subject: Apple's Mac Developer Prorgam license agreement
Message-ID: <A7855C82-5DA1-4140-A25E-7CEDEC79D5CE@adium.im>

Fellow Board Members,

Attached is the Mac Developer Program license agreement which I propose to enter into as a representative of and on behalf of IMF.  Doing so is a prerequisite to participating in the Mac App Store as well as to Adium having access to various resources that Apple offers its paid-program developers.

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I am not a lawyer, but I don't see anything offensive in the agreement.  I'd appreciate timely feedback so we can proceed, if possible.

Cheers,
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From evan at adium.im  Sat Oct 30 15:08:10 2010
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 14:08:10 -0500
Subject: Adium Merchandising
Message-ID: <A1AEC8FA-A41B-42E4-A3FA-EEBB52BB601F@adium.im>

Board,

The Adium team is setting up a merchandise store - initially T-shirts bearing the Adium logo.  The store is to be run initially by spreadshirt.com, which will be doing both production and delivery.

I would like to provide spreadshirt with IMF's tax ID and banking information for the purposes of proceeds from these sales (currently set at $5 per shirt) being deposited into the Adium-earmarked part of IMF's coffers.

If such an arrangement requires a vote, I submit this as a formal proposal, for voting via email in advance of a live meeting of the Board, as provided in our charter.

I will be launching the store alongside Adium 1.4's release, this weekend, but spreadshirt does not require that the financial setup be in place before they begin fulfilling orders; they'll hold the commissions until arrangements are made.

If you are interested, you may find the store currently at http://adium.spreadshirt.com.  It will be integrated into the Adium home page after the launch.

The Adium mascot is of course licensed under the GPL.  I have also double-checked with its artist - who contributed it to Adium under the terms of the GPL - and he has no objection to its use on official Adium merchandise.  (I don't believe he'd have any legal recourse if he did have an objection but we chose to proceed, but such things are always easier when everyone is on the same page).

Cheers,
Evan
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From mark at kingant.net  Sat Oct 30 15:35:09 2010
From: mark at kingant.net (Mark Doliner)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 12:35:09 -0700
Subject: Adium Merchandising
In-Reply-To: <A1AEC8FA-A41B-42E4-A3FA-EEBB52BB601F@adium.im>
References: <A1AEC8FA-A41B-42E4-A3FA-EEBB52BB601F@adium.im>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=xEf5hoOe=VOKSZT-n==VTEDp6PAm6eoc6aJe0@mail.gmail.com>

This sounds great to me.  I don't know whether this is something that
needs to be voted on.

FYI I set up a zazzle store for Pidgin a while ago here:
http://www.zazzle.com/imfreedom

Also, I guess we need to have a board meeting soon.

--Mark

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. <evan at adium.im> wrote:
> Board,
>
> The Adium team is setting up a merchandise store - initially T-shirts bearing the Adium logo. ?The store is to be run initially by spreadshirt.com, which will be doing both production and delivery.
>
> I would like to provide spreadshirt with IMF's tax ID and banking information for the purposes of proceeds from these sales (currently set at $5 per shirt) being deposited into the Adium-earmarked part of IMF's coffers.
>
> If such an arrangement requires a vote, I submit this as a formal proposal, for voting via email in advance of a live meeting of the Board, as provided in our charter.
>
> I will be launching the store alongside Adium 1.4's release, this weekend, but spreadshirt does not require that the financial setup be in place before they begin fulfilling orders; they'll hold the commissions until arrangements are made.
>
> If you are interested, you may find the store currently at http://adium.spreadshirt.com. ?It will be integrated into the Adium home page after the launch.
>
> The Adium mascot is of course licensed under the GPL. ?I have also double-checked with its artist - who contributed it to Adium under the terms of the GPL - and he has no objection to its use on official Adium merchandise. ?(I don't believe he'd have any legal recourse if he did have an objection but we chose to proceed, but such things are always easier when everyone is on the same page).
>
> Cheers,
> Evan
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From rekkanoryo at pidgin.im  Sun Oct 31 13:00:09 2010
From: rekkanoryo at pidgin.im (John Bailey)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 13:00:09 -0400
Subject: Adium Merchandising
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=xEf5hoOe=VOKSZT-n==VTEDp6PAm6eoc6aJe0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A1AEC8FA-A41B-42E4-A3FA-EEBB52BB601F@adium.im>
	<AANLkTi=xEf5hoOe=VOKSZT-n==VTEDp6PAm6eoc6aJe0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CCDA099.8020909@pidgin.im>

On 10/30/2010 03:35 PM, Mark Doliner wrote:
> This sounds great to me.  I don't know whether this is something that
> needs to be voted on.

I agree with Mark here.

John

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From elb at pidgin.im  Sun Oct 31 19:50:48 2010
From: elb at pidgin.im (Ethan Blanton)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:50:48 -0400
Subject: Google SoC 2010 travel reimbursement
Message-ID: <20101031235048.GB1083@colt>

Board,

Elliott attended the Google Summer of Code 2010 Mentor Summit as our
representative.  As you all may remember, the way this works is that
the mentor pays his own way to the summit, and then Google reimburses
later.  I will be filing for reimbursement from Google, but they pay
on a Net 30 basis, so it will be another month or more before we
receive our Summer of Code payments.  With this in mind, I would like
to propose that we reimburse Elliott for his travel now, and let the
Google reimbursement reimburse IMF Inc.  We did this last year for
Gary and me.

Elliott's travel expenses were $1382.32 CAD, which works out to
$1353.39 USD on the day of purchase (10/4/2010).  I propose that IMF
Inc. mail Elliott a check for $1353.39 as soon as enough votes come in
to approve the measure so that he does not have to float this payment
any longer.

Thanks,
Ethan
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From rekkanoryo at pidgin.im  Sun Oct 31 20:02:39 2010
From: rekkanoryo at pidgin.im (John Bailey)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:02:39 -0400
Subject: Google SoC 2010 travel reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <20101031235048.GB1083@colt>
References: <20101031235048.GB1083@colt>
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On 10/31/2010 07:50 PM, Ethan Blanton wrote:
> Elliott's travel expenses were $1382.32 CAD, which works out to
> $1353.39 USD on the day of purchase (10/4/2010).  I propose that IMF
> Inc. mail Elliott a check for $1353.39 as soon as enough votes come in
> to approve the measure so that he does not have to float this payment
> any longer.

I'm in favor.

John

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From evan at adium.im  Sun Oct 31 23:19:26 2010
From: evan at adium.im (Evan Schoenberg, M.D.)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:19:26 -0500
Subject: Google SoC 2010 travel reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <20101031235048.GB1083@colt>
References: <20101031235048.GB1083@colt>
Message-ID: <D74C8F89-6F98-4733-96FD-B24567A6DBB3@adium.im>


On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Ethan Blanton wrote:

> Elliott's travel expenses were $1382.32 CAD, which works out to
> $1353.39 USD on the day of purchase (10/4/2010).  I propose that IMF
> Inc. mail Elliott a check for $1353.39 as soon as enough votes come in
> to approve the measure so that he does not have to float this payment
> any longer.

I vote yea.

-Evan

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