From seanegan at gmail.com  Thu Mar 27 18:19:43 2008
From: seanegan at gmail.com (Sean Egan)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:19:43 -0700
Subject: OpenAIM and protocolfreedom
Message-ID: <e61d333f0803271519g6c68e024l3d4b2c36efcffd6@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

I had a phone call with Karen from softwarefreedom.org today, and she
confirmed that the licensing attached to the OpenAIM stuff is not
GPL-compatible, and it's best to leave it ignored. We also talked
about protocolfreedom.org, and whether that could apply to MSN, and
she said that after protocofreedom.org was formed, Microsoft
publically released their documentation for everything covered by it,
mostly obsoleting protocolfreedom.  She said she thought MSN messenger
might be covered and pointed me at
http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/intellectualproperty/protocols/mcpp.mspx

I haven't looked at it yet, but I suspect they may have released docs
for whatever their internal SIP-like thing is called, but not MSN
Messenger (or whatever MSN is called these days)

-s.

From ali.sabil at gmail.com  Sat Mar 29 06:14:13 2008
From: ali.sabil at gmail.com (Ali Sabil)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:14:13 +0100
Subject: OpenAIM and protocolfreedom
In-Reply-To: <e61d333f0803271519g6c68e024l3d4b2c36efcffd6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e61d333f0803271519g6c68e024l3d4b2c36efcffd6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6b4de4d80803290314o1f9756d3v48b32f8bab88b7ee@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Sean Egan <seanegan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
>  I had a phone call with Karen from softwarefreedom.org today, and she
>  confirmed that the licensing attached to the OpenAIM stuff is not
>  GPL-compatible, and it's best to leave it ignored. We also talked
>  about protocolfreedom.org, and whether that could apply to MSN, and
>  she said that after protocofreedom.org was formed, Microsoft
>  publically released their documentation for everything covered by it,
>  mostly obsoleting protocolfreedom.  She said she thought MSN messenger
>  might be covered and pointed me at
>  http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/intellectualproperty/protocols/mcpp.mspx
>
>  I haven't looked at it yet, but I suspect they may have released docs
>  for whatever their internal SIP-like thing is called, but not MSN
>  Messenger (or whatever MSN is called these days)
>

I just checked those documents, and beside the documentation to they
SDP extensions
I couldn't find anything useful. I didn't look in depth though.

--
Ali

From lschiere at pidgin.im  Sat Mar 29 09:33:01 2008
From: lschiere at pidgin.im (Luke Schierer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:33:01 -0400
Subject: OpenAIM and protocolfreedom
In-Reply-To: <e61d333f0803271519g6c68e024l3d4b2c36efcffd6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e61d333f0803271519g6c68e024l3d4b2c36efcffd6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080329133301.GM9747@pidgin.im>

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 03:19:43PM -0700, Sean Egan wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I had a phone call with Karen from softwarefreedom.org today, and she
> confirmed that the licensing attached to the OpenAIM stuff is not
> GPL-compatible, and it's best to leave it ignored. We also talked
> about protocolfreedom.org, and whether that could apply to MSN, and
> she said that after protocofreedom.org was formed, Microsoft
> publically released their documentation for everything covered by it,
> mostly obsoleting protocolfreedom.  She said she thought MSN messenger
> might be covered and pointed me at
> http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/intellectualproperty/protocols/mcpp.mspx
> 
> I haven't looked at it yet, but I suspect they may have released docs
> for whatever their internal SIP-like thing is called, but not MSN
> Messenger (or whatever MSN is called these days)
> 
> -s.

Thanks for following up on this Sean.

luke


