
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:24:56 CDTthey're for the SFP and QSFP ports, you can get them in copper or fiber
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:25:14 CDToh i think i've seen those
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:25:46 CDTI use the copper ones at work for our switch stack
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:26:26 CDTmakes sense
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:26:41 CDTwe have a stack of 10 GbE switches with QSFP ports of some variety that can do 100 GbE. We have dual cables between them because that's the minimum requirement for stacking
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:27:36 CDTgotcha
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:29:10 CDTWe're getting a new datacenter at work and we're going to end up with a ton of that stuff for all the switches we're planning to do
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:29:43 CDTany of the existing stuff being retired where you might get a free upgrade for home? 
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:30:02 CDTNot for at least another 3 years, but we don't use ubiquiti at work
we tried it for a specific use case, boss hated it, so we're not allowed to use it anymore
so if I were to scavenge, it'd make my home network more complicated than I want, lol
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:31:16 CDTheh yeah, i'm locked in to ubiquiti too, although those mesh kits are pretty amazing... but I'm probably going to run cable.. so 🤷
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:32:33 CDTI'm at the point that I'm considering moving to a Dream Machine or Dream Machine Pro so I can ditch the VM to run the controller
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:33:11 CDToh you just reminded me.. i need to buy a network coupler for a patch job 😄
omg, the dream machine pro is 500?!
i might actually pick one of these up at some point as the ports are all poe as well.. wheneveri run cable i was going to make runs for the APs too.. and then i need power, so this is way better than injectors
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:38:04 CDTyeah, becasue you can slap hard drives in it and use it as an nvr for ubiquiti cameras too
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:38:23 CDTwell i'm already using frigate, and i only have one unifi camera, so that's not a big deal for me
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:38:50 CDTright...and you're already using a non-pro dream machine aren't you?
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:39:02 CDTno no dream machine
i had a cloud key gen 1 that died (i think) and moved to a vm
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:39:23 CDToh, why did I think you had the "basic" dream machine?
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:39:30 CDTno idea 😉
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:39:32 CDTso you're using the old USG as your router too?
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:39:37 CDTyeah
and the psu in that just died too, so i had to get a new one for that
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:39:59 CDTI'm wondering how long before they drop support for that, they haven't pushed a firmware update for it in a LONG time
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:40:37 CDTyeah
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:40:40 CDTat least 515 days, my last USG reboot was the last firmware update
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:42:03 CDTmine is at 22 days.. i think that's when the psu died, but that seems too recent
i'm on 4.4.57
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:43:10 CDTThat's what I'm on too
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:43:52 CDTapparently my controller has an update
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:44:43 CDTThe udm pro also has 2 10GbE SFP ports doesn't it?
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:45:09 CDTyeah
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:45:15 CDTEverything with more than 1GbE is stupid expensive
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:45:20 CDTand poe+ which i don't know the specifics of
yeah so $500 for this as it's a router and controller and stuff is more than reasonable imo
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:46:12 CDTPoe+ is I think 30W per device. Standard Poe is 15W per device
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:46:23 CDTcool, figured it was something like that 😄
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:46:24 CDTPoe++ is 60W per device
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:47:29 CDTof course there's a ++... what does PoE# support?
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:47:48 CDTLmao, I don't think there is one yet
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:47:58 CDTyet
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:48:06 CDTAnd poe++ is not an official name
It's just what some dumb switch manufacturers are calling it
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:48:27 CDTah
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:54:48 CDTName IEEE Standard Max. Power per Port PoE IEEE 802.3af 15.4 W PoE+ IEEE 802.3at 30 W PoE++ IEEE 802.3bt (Type 3) 60 W PoE++ IEEE 802.3bt (Type 4) 100 W
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:58:32 CDTmissed one..
PoE# IEEE 802.3zz (Type 69) 100JW
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:58:44 CDTlol
surprised you didn't go for 1337 W
or 420
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:59:13 CDThah well i wanted to use jiggawatts..
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 19:59:17 CDTfair
grim
08/02/2024 at 19:59:18 CDTbut yeah 1337 JW would have been better
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 20:28:22 CDTI swear the YouTube recommendations algorithm has been replaced with multiple hallucinating "AI's"
grim
08/02/2024 at 20:32:16 CDTYeah it keeps replaying videos for me too..
rekkanoryo
08/02/2024 at 20:32:44 CDToh, that's not what has me thinking
it's the weird random things it's throwing up
like random women streaming with nonsensical titles and only like 5 viewers
kinda surprised I haven't seen non-English recommended at this point
grim
08/02/2024 at 20:54:53 CDTWow mine hasn't been that weird
santana
08/04/2024 at 14:29:07 CDTTranslating All C to Rust (TRACTOR): https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2024-07-31a 😁
renegadevi
08/04/2024 at 14:33:37 CDTi think the more important gonna be the unsafe audits for those rust projects
like, I imagine to get some things "working" there will be a lot of unsafe until they figured out the safe way
with a performance penalty
awfulwaffl3
08/05/2024 at 01:33:11 CDTrekkanoryo
08/05/2024 at 17:33:03 CDTthis is a bit of a random question, but is there a way on linux to take an image of ONLY the allocated partition space on an SD card? use case is I have an sd card that I've just made that has a 512 MB vfat partition and a 5 GB ext4 partition and I want the image to start at the mbr/partition table and go until the end of the 5 GB partition, but I don't want to have to sit down and figure out exactly what incantation to feed to dd to get the desired result. On Windows, I could use win32diskimager and check the box to image only allocated partitions and it will do the job.
and using dd on the two partitions separately isn't an acceptable answer
rekkanoryo
08/05/2024 at 17:53:40 CDTI tried the conv=sparse argument and that seems not to work because the card is not all zeroes after the end of the second partition
rekkanoryo
08/05/2024 at 17:59:57 CDTlooks like the most reasonable option is to fdisk -l and find the block size and the ending block number of the last partition and feed those to dd like so: dd if=/dev/sdh of=arpwatch_20240725.img bs=512 count=11536383 status=progress
renegadevi
08/05/2024 at 18:14:36 CDTgithub be like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnLSg8Kqxak
grim
08/05/2024 at 18:35:11 CDTyeah that's the only way i know how to do it, but it seems like someone would have written a script to do this already..
rekkanoryo
08/05/2024 at 19:07:57 CDTor something similar to win32diskimager that just wraps around the tools and makes it easy
grim
08/05/2024 at 20:23:04 CDTthere is gparted or parted magic or whatever it is
grim
08/06/2024 at 15:58:46 CDTabout time... > As of OpenSSH 9.8p1, DSA keys are no longer supported even with the > above configuration options. If you have a device that you can only > connect to using DSA, then you can use the ssh1 command provided by the > openssh-client-ssh1 package to do so.
rekkanoryo
08/06/2024 at 17:25:33 CDT....that hadn't already been done?
grim
08/06/2024 at 17:31:51 CDTjust got it in apt-changelog..
rekkanoryo
08/07/2024 at 09:19:24 CDTEnterprise software...ugh...
renegadevi
08/07/2024 at 09:45:05 CDTBing get wrecked https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/s/LhT1r3PMHJ
Anyone even prefer Bing? Every time I use it it’s like so much shit everywhere
It feels like yahoo back in the day
ivanhoe
08/07/2024 at 09:56:31 CDTI think it was okayish before the AI stuff.
renegadevi
08/07/2024 at 10:15:17 CDTBrave search still clean with AI search, just slower. Tho main issue with brace search is lack of content but what is there is good
If this was 2005, it wouldn’t be called AI. Everything was called “Smart” back then 
grim
08/07/2024 at 13:02:44 CDTWtf I just got an email from a recruiter noting my as400 and rpg experience... I've never touched anything like that .. 
renegadevi
08/07/2024 at 15:57:44 CDTapparently people been getting emails about it now
grim
08/07/2024 at 16:02:35 CDTdidn't this happen years ago/
or was that just the addition of the X1 chain?
rekkanoryo
08/07/2024 at 21:04:03 CDTI think it was the addition
rekkanoryo
08/08/2024 at 11:44:24 CDT...also enterprise software: "We need Java but don't want to use Oracle Java. Let's vendor openjdk and never update it!"
grim
08/08/2024 at 11:50:40 CDTThere is Amazon's coretto (spelling?) now too...
rekkanoryo
08/08/2024 at 11:50:56 CDTfair point but still, the never update part still applies
and yeah, you spelled it right
grim
08/08/2024 at 11:52:03 CDTYeah, but enterprises dont and update anything until they have too.. which reminds me I need to find time to update our k8s cluster at work before September where AWS will automatically update it for us ..
ivanhoe
08/08/2024 at 12:29:40 CDTsounds like an ice cream brand
grim
08/08/2024 at 12:30:02 CDTThat could be intentional?
ivanhoe
08/08/2024 at 12:31:27 CDTOh yeah maybe. Wasn't there a JRE called "icedtea"?
grim
08/08/2024 at 14:22:22 CDTyeah i recall that name but none of the specifics
renegadevi
08/08/2024 at 18:05:35 CDToh nice. windows having another moment. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-update-downgrade-attack-unpatches-fully-updated-systems/
renegadevi
08/09/2024 at 09:22:29 CDTinteresting. Phishing scams from HR is the most provokative ones. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20240807446875/en/KnowBe4-Releases-Q2-Quarterly-Phishing-Test-Results
rekkanoryo
08/09/2024 at 12:35:56 CDTThat's not at all surprising to me, as someone who works in IT and sees some of that stuff.
renegadevi
08/09/2024 at 19:13:31 CDTgrim
08/10/2024 at 00:13:42 CDTat some point we need to cut off legacy support...
apple definitely has that part right
although they may be doing it too quickly 
Savos Darkran
08/10/2024 at 04:48:18 CDTlmao
Savos Darkran
08/10/2024 at 07:40:33 CDTI have a somewhat dumb question but feel it's likely possible. Traditionally I have restarted a pc when there is a new kernel. Is that still needed in this day and age? Can you init a new kernel without restarting?
ahh livepatch
rekkanoryo
08/10/2024 at 12:23:48 CDTThere is livepatch as you mentioned, but that's not always an option
grim
08/10/2024 at 14:11:36 CDTThere's kexec too but that's traditionally been meant for servers to limit down time.
Savos Darkran
08/10/2024 at 15:24:06 CDTahh yeah kexec.
i'll have to play around with them.
lol
QuLogic
08/12/2024 at 16:36:32 CDThuh, random reference: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.15/admin-guide/LSM/Yama.html#ptrace-scope
grim
08/12/2024 at 16:38:59 CDTi'd like to collect these random references and put them somewhere, but not sure what to call it...
wild.pidgin.im could maybe work.. in-the-wild.pidgin.im is too long, it doesn't feel like it should be on pidgin.im or developer.pidgin.im though..
side note, we should probably set up that ptrace stuff 😄
at least for non-debug builds
grim
08/13/2024 at 16:25:16 CDTso according to facebook, i learned about !! in bash 12 years ago today
theendlessriver
08/13/2024 at 16:27:09 CDTHaha nice, it was a game changes vor me when I learned !! and !$
grim
08/13/2024 at 16:27:34 CDT!$ is second argument to the end right?
so like mkdir /really/long/path/i/do/not/want/to/type/again && cd !$ or is that something else?
theendlessriver
08/13/2024 at 16:29:03 CDTLast Argument. I always do commit -m "v1.2.3" and then tag !$
rekkanoryo
08/13/2024 at 16:29:46 CDTI am fuming right now. I worked form home today so I could get a package from FedEx that's signature-required. I needed to go to other branches today too. FedEx still has not delivered my package, despite giving me a 0930-1330 timeframe and later a 0930-1130 timeframe for delivery.
grim
08/13/2024 at 16:30:07 CDTfedex is garbage, avoid at all costs...
rekkanoryo
08/13/2024 at 16:30:19 CDTif I had known they STILL wouldn't be here at 1730, I'd have gone to the branches instead of working from home.
grim
08/13/2024 at 16:30:24 CDTi know that doesn't help now and you probably didn't have a choice, but that's my stance
rekkanoryo
08/13/2024 at 16:30:25 CDTI didn't get a choice in carriers :/
grim
08/13/2024 at 16:31:02 CDTwhen i get packages from fedex, ground in particular, but air as well, they're usually covered in dirt..
rekkanoryo
08/13/2024 at 16:31:51 CDTI'm sure it's ground, there's a lithium (but not lithium ion) battery in there, so it wouldn't have been shipped air
grim
08/13/2024 at 16:32:04 CDTalso one time i fedex overnighted from stickers from chicago, a 2 hour drive... they flew them to tennessee on accident and i got the stickers in 3 days and couldn't get a refund on shipping..
rekkanoryo
08/13/2024 at 16:32:11 CDT(stupid FAA being too stupid to know the difference between lithium coin cell and lithium ion batteries)
QuLogic
08/13/2024 at 16:32:39 CDTah, I use Alt+. for that; it puts the last argument in there, so I can see it or edit it
grim
08/13/2024 at 16:33:06 CDToh, or there's the time fedex lost my package in their local warehouse... I went to pick it up and they told me to come back the next day because they couldn't find it...
rekkanoryo
08/13/2024 at 16:33:33 CDTback when I used newegg for stuff, FedEx was actually reasonable...but that's 20 years ago now
grim
08/13/2024 at 16:33:41 CDTfedex's newest fuckery is delivering all my stuff to my neighbor's house..
nothing like carrying 60lbs of cat food across my yard because the fedex driver can't read the address...
rekkanoryo
08/13/2024 at 16:34:28 CDTouch
grim
08/13/2024 at 16:34:56 CDTas you can see, my fedex complaints are chronic..
anyways, good luck with your delivery. i'd double check the tracking as it probably is still in a distribution center somewhere. that is, not that the site will actually have correct info, but yeah
theendlessriver
08/13/2024 at 16:36:46 CDTAh that's your terminal doing it?
rekkanoryo
08/13/2024 at 16:36:54 CDTI've been monitoring the tracking all day. It claims the package has been on a truck since 0727 and out for delivery since 0901.
grim
08/13/2024 at 16:38:04 CDTit'd have to be the shell, the terminal shouldn't be monitoring input like that
ivanhoe
08/13/2024 at 16:55:04 CDTI think Alt . is a bash thing
grim
08/13/2024 at 17:03:29 CDTit could be a readline thing
which bash uses not sure if zsh does
Vachidra
08/13/2024 at 18:46:32 CDTI apologize, I'm new here, is there a room here to ask about fixing a problem with Pidgin?
rekkanoryo
08/13/2024 at 18:47:01 CDT# support is likely the best place
Vachidra
08/13/2024 at 18:47:06 CDTThank you
grim
08/14/2024 at 12:37:44 CDTYeesh... Also a suggested mitigation is disabled ipv6.. this is why it'll always be a second class citizen ... https://cybersecuritynews.com/0-click-rce-windows-tcp-ip/amp/
grim
08/14/2024 at 13:44:11 CDTSo the psus for the build agents that were supposed to get here yesterday and now going to get here tomorrow. Apparently the shipper messed up my address somehow...
rekkanoryo
08/14/2024 at 13:54:39 CDThey, look at that, a mitigation I already have deployed in my environment by default
grim
08/14/2024 at 14:00:51 CDTnice
rekkanoryo
08/14/2024 at 14:01:21 CDTI feel like I need to sleep for like 2 months solid
but I can barely manage 6 hours in a night anymore
grim
08/14/2024 at 14:02:56 CDTyeah same
koutsie
08/14/2024 at 23:34:41 CDTi have the same but different
ii g ot 9.5 hrs of sleep tonight but feel more tired than if i slept less
theendlessriver
08/17/2024 at 06:54:55 CDTDid anyone ever do a minidump analysis on windows? One of our build agents gets a BSOD with code 0x 21a and fails to boot. I was able to get it started with driver verification disabled but now I'm trying to find out what's failing the verification and causing the bsod. We don't have a working ansible workflow otherwise I'd just kill it - its been a while since we set it up. There was no chocolatey or winget back then. I always wanted to try building a delpoy based on that. But imo customizing windows is way to much powershell and regedit bs...
Savos Darkran
08/17/2024 at 07:13:07 CDTIf you have the dmp file you can use windbg in the store to read the dump.
theendlessriver
08/17/2024 at 07:17:28 CDTI did that but it just showed me what I already knew that winlogon could not be started. The process showed was ntoskrnl.exe which is also not very helpful... Maybe it's not an actually driver causing this and deactivating the verification has other (beneficial) side effects?
Savos Darkran
08/17/2024 at 07:18:49 CDTif you're doing a minidmp, you could try doing a full dump.
advanced system settings -> startup and recovery
theendlessriver
08/17/2024 at 07:23:43 CDTOkay, I'll try that next
grim
08/17/2024 at 16:44:28 CDTYay still getting random freezes in Linux 6.10 on my machine...
and actually, freeze isn't the right term.. i can't do anything but the audio from the youtube video i was watching is still playing like normal.
ope, it just stopped and I can't ssh in
i think 6.9 was doing it too, and that's all i have for kernels now too... 6.10 and 6.9
grim
08/17/2024 at 17:10:17 CDTand chrome just crashed on 6.9... well time to move back to unstable i guess
grim
08/17/2024 at 17:58:43 CDTwould appreciate everyone's input
https://discourse.imfreedom.org/t/poll-irc-ctcp-requests/187
grim
08/17/2024 at 19:15:14 CDTand chrome crashed again and took the rest of the machien with it this time..
guess it's firefox time
grim
08/17/2024 at 20:08:48 CDTi know this is anecdotal, but damn firefox feels sooo much faster.
grim
08/18/2024 at 01:46:33 CDTyoutube will be back next stream
or not, obs just crashed 
[Sun Aug 18 01:46:32 2024] mp_media_thread[43289]: segfault at 7f8a1887ae88 ip 00007f6abf3a2ed0 sp 00007f6a5fdff778 error 4 in libavcodec.so.61.3.100[3a2ed0,7f6abf074000+ab4000] likely on CPU 29 (core 29, socket 0)
none of this happened in linux 6.8...
can't even pull it from testing..
$ apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64 linux-image-amd64: Installed: 6.10.4-1 Candidate: 6.10.4-1 Version table: *** 6.10.4-1 500 500 <a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="<a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a>" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="<a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a>"><a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a></a> unstable/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 6.10.3-1 500 500 <a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="<a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a>" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="<a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a>"><a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a></a> testing/main amd64 Packages
grim
08/18/2024 at 02:26:34 CDTand obs just crashed when idling again.. trying to stream like this is going to be fun!
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 07:32:36 CDTIt's not still in your apt cache to pull it that way?
grim
08/18/2024 at 15:31:16 CDTOh maybe, didn't think of that
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 16:22:08 CDTHeh that ship sailed a WHILE ago
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:06:04 CDTwell i mean, that looks korean.. (i think) and i for sure don't know korean...
also this crash stuff is possibly tied to mesa < 24.1.6
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:08:42 CDTwhy does ARM as an architecture have to be such a piece of shit when it comes to installing OSes? Why can't I just have a damn installer instead of having to flash preconfigured images?
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:08:58 CDTyeah no idea..
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:20:38 CDTalso, fuck microhdmi, and fuck raspberry pi trading, ltd. for manufacturing producs using that trash
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:21:31 CDTdid something break?
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:21:36 CDTalmost
or at least it felt like it
it's also not clear that the micro hdmi end is plugged in until it feels like it's broken
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:22:13 CDTah.. i just swapped in an ssd in one of the mac mini's last night, so yeah i'm still trying to make sure i didn't break anything 
oh damn
i haven't noticed that on my pi5, but i haven't done much with it to be honest, especially since it's headless now 
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:27:19 CDTalso, the UK keyboard layout can die in a fire too
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:27:51 CDTyou hate that enter key that much?
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:28:02 CDTno, I hate that " is on shift+2
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:28:16 CDTalso we were just looking at this on stream because i ran across GDK_KEY_ISO_Return and was like "wtf is this?"
eww
i didn't notice that one
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:28:39 CDTneedless to say I password failed about 15 times before I realized that was the problem
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:29:04 CDTand now we know your password has a @ in it 
or i suppose that could have been an email, but that wouldn't be masked..
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:30:16 CDTabout the only thing raspberry pi os does out of the box that I like is making the interface names make sense
eth0 and wlan0 instead of bullshti like enp0s1 or whatever
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:31:45 CDTwhat if i told you that the enp#s% was logical... the # is the pci bus, and the % is the interface number on that bus
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:32:12 CDTyes, I know that, but it's actually trivial for that to be changed on reboots too, despite the bullshit claims to the contrary
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:32:24 CDT$ grep enp /proc/net/dev ; lspci | grep -i ether enp4s0: 9032100860 7767194 0 0 0 0 0 154681 548124853 1629310 0 0 0 0 0 0 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I211 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03)
yeah, that's true, but eth* can get messed up too.. they're all garbage
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:32:56 CDTthere's also the f0, f1, etc. at the end for multiport cards...which I get it, but ugh.
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:33:04 CDTyeah
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:33:29 CDTbut on a raspberry pi, having it be anything other than eth0 would just be criminally stupid
especially since it's not a pcie device
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:34:04 CDTat least they're not tying device names to mac addresses anymore
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:34:20 CDToh, wait, on the pi 5 eth0 actually IS a pcie device
on the pi 3 and older at least, it's USB
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:34:43 CDTah yeah
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:35:21 CDTwhich is partly because the SoC's root hub on the pi 3 and older is only 2 ports, and the ethernet controller is actually a hub plus ethernet
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:37:25 CDTalso, 24 hours later, firefox still seems waaay faster than chrome
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:37:38 CDTstrange, I found the opposite last time I tried to daily drive firefox
in fairness that HAS been a while, and both firefox and chrome were what I would call completely unusable under wayland
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:38:21 CDTah this is under x
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:38:31 CDTyeah, I'm still using X myself
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:38:58 CDTand i dunno, chrome kept crashing, so between that and the impending ad blocker block I figured it's time
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:39:06 CDTbut it's been probably 18 months since I tried to convert to firefox the last time, and I was using xfce back then, so X for sure
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:39:20 CDTwait you moved from xfce?
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:39:33 CDTyeah, I'm running kde plasma, have been for a while
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:39:51 CDThuh I didn't realize that, perhaps I forgot
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:40:10 CDTalthough I don't use the desktop that much, I spend more time on my macbook because I have been spending all my time on the couch
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:41:12 CDTheh nice
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:41:46 CDT...I've been using Linux and UNIX systems for 23+ years at this point and I STILL have to google permissions for .ssh and .ssh/authorized_keys to get it right
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:42:56 CDTheh
i just do ssh-copy-id now if i need to 😄
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:43:55 CDTI didn't know that existed
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:44:00 CDTobviously that doesn't work if you're only allowing key auth,but yeah
yeah it's nice 🙂
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:44:08 CDTTIL
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:44:12 CDTbeen around for awhile, i forget how i stumbled across it
rekkanoryo
08/18/2024 at 17:44:35 CDTI wouldn't have had AS much trouble with this if I had used raspberry pi imager to flash this SD card.
grim
08/18/2024 at 17:45:09 CDTah yeah, that thing is nice too