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rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:24:56 CDT

they're for the SFP and QSFP ports, you can get them in copper or fiber

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:25:14 CDT

oh i think i've seen those

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:25:46 CDT

I use the copper ones at work for our switch stack

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:26:26 CDT

makes sense

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:26:41 CDT

we have a stack of 10 GbE switches with QSFP ports of some variety that can do 100 GbE. We have dual cables between them because that's the minimum requirement for stacking

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:27:36 CDT

gotcha

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:29:10 CDT

We're getting a new datacenter at work and we're going to end up with a ton of that stuff for all the switches we're planning to do

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:29:43 CDT

any of the existing stuff being retired where you might get a free upgrade for home? :rwgrimLOL:

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:30:02 CDT

Not for at least another 3 years, but we don't use ubiquiti at work

19:30:14

we tried it for a specific use case, boss hated it, so we're not allowed to use it anymore

19:30:33

so if I were to scavenge, it'd make my home network more complicated than I want, lol

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:31:16 CDT

heh yeah, i'm locked in to ubiquiti too, although those mesh kits are pretty amazing... but I'm probably going to run cable.. so 🤷

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:32:33 CDT

I'm at the point that I'm considering moving to a Dream Machine or Dream Machine Pro so I can ditch the VM to run the controller

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:33:11 CDT

oh you just reminded me.. i need to buy a network coupler for a patch job 😄

19:35:26

omg, the dream machine pro is 500?!

19:37:51

i might actually pick one of these up at some point as the ports are all poe as well.. wheneveri run cable i was going to make runs for the APs too.. and then i need power, so this is way better than injectors

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:38:04 CDT

yeah, becasue you can slap hard drives in it and use it as an nvr for ubiquiti cameras too

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:38:23 CDT

well i'm already using frigate, and i only have one unifi camera, so that's not a big deal for me

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:38:50 CDT

right...and you're already using a non-pro dream machine aren't you?

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:39:02 CDT

no no dream machine

19:39:12

i had a cloud key gen 1 that died (i think) and moved to a vm

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:39:23 CDT

oh, why did I think you had the "basic" dream machine?

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:39:30 CDT

no idea 😉

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:39:32 CDT

so you're using the old USG as your router too?

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:39:37 CDT

yeah

19:39:52

and the psu in that just died too, so i had to get a new one for that

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:39:59 CDT

I'm wondering how long before they drop support for that, they haven't pushed a firmware update for it in a LONG time

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:40:37 CDT

yeah

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:40:40 CDT

at least 515 days, my last USG reboot was the last firmware update

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:42:03 CDT

mine is at 22 days.. i think that's when the psu died, but that seems too recent

19:42:57

i'm on 4.4.57

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:43:10 CDT

That's what I'm on too

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:43:52 CDT

apparently my controller has an update

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:44:43 CDT

The udm pro also has 2 10GbE SFP ports doesn't it?

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:45:09 CDT

yeah

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:45:15 CDT

Everything with more than 1GbE is stupid expensive

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:45:20 CDT

and poe+ which i don't know the specifics of

19:45:40

yeah so $500 for this as it's a router and controller and stuff is more than reasonable imo

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:46:12 CDT

Poe+ is I think 30W per device. Standard Poe is 15W per device

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:46:23 CDT

cool, figured it was something like that 😄

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:46:24 CDT

Poe++ is 60W per device

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:47:29 CDT

of course there's a ++... what does PoE# support?

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:47:48 CDT

Lmao, I don't think there is one yet

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:47:58 CDT

yet

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:48:06 CDT

And poe++ is not an official name

19:48:22

It's just what some dumb switch manufacturers are calling it

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:48:27 CDT

ah

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:54:48 CDT

Name IEEE Standard Max. Power per Port PoE IEEE 802.3af 15.4 W PoE+ IEEE 802.3at 30 W PoE++ IEEE 802.3bt (Type 3) 60 W PoE++ IEEE 802.3bt (Type 4) 100 W

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:58:32 CDT

missed one..

PoE# IEEE 802.3zz (Type 69) 100JW

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:58:44 CDT

lol

19:58:57

surprised you didn't go for 1337 W

19:59:03

or 420

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:59:13 CDT

hah well i wanted to use jiggawatts..

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 19:59:17 CDT

fair

grim

08/02/2024 at 19:59:18 CDT

but yeah 1337 JW would have been better

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 20:28:22 CDT

I swear the YouTube recommendations algorithm has been replaced with multiple hallucinating "AI's"

grim

08/02/2024 at 20:32:16 CDT

Yeah it keeps replaying videos for me too..

rekkanoryo

08/02/2024 at 20:32:44 CDT

oh, that's not what has me thinking

20:32:52

it's the weird random things it's throwing up

20:33:20

like random women streaming with nonsensical titles and only like 5 viewers

20:33:52

kinda surprised I haven't seen non-English recommended at this point

grim

08/02/2024 at 20:54:53 CDT

Wow mine hasn't been that weird

santana

08/04/2024 at 14:29:07 CDT

Translating All C to Rust (TRACTOR): https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2024-07-31a 😁

santanaTranslating All C to Rust (TRACTOR): https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2024-07-31a 😁

renegadevi

08/04/2024 at 14:33:37 CDT

i think the more important gonna be the unsafe audits for those rust projects

14:34:04

like, I imagine to get some things "working" there will be a lot of unsafe until they figured out the safe way

14:35:21

with a performance penalty

awfulwaffl3

08/05/2024 at 01:33:11 CDT

https://clownstrike.lol/

rekkanoryo

08/05/2024 at 17:33:03 CDT

this is a bit of a random question, but is there a way on linux to take an image of ONLY the allocated partition space on an SD card? use case is I have an sd card that I've just made that has a 512 MB vfat partition and a 5 GB ext4 partition and I want the image to start at the mbr/partition table and go until the end of the 5 GB partition, but I don't want to have to sit down and figure out exactly what incantation to feed to dd to get the desired result. On Windows, I could use win32diskimager and check the box to image only allocated partitions and it will do the job.

17:34:04

and using dd on the two partitions separately isn't an acceptable answer

rekkanoryo

08/05/2024 at 17:53:40 CDT

I tried the conv=sparse argument and that seems not to work because the card is not all zeroes after the end of the second partition

rekkanoryo

08/05/2024 at 17:59:57 CDT

looks like the most reasonable option is to fdisk -l and find the block size and the ending block number of the last partition and feed those to dd like so: dd if=/dev/sdh of=arpwatch_20240725.img bs=512 count=11536383 status=progress

renegadevi

08/05/2024 at 18:14:36 CDT

github be like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnLSg8Kqxak

rekkanoryolooks like the most reasonable option is to fdisk -l and find the block size and the ending block number of the last partition and feed those to dd like so: dd if=/dev/sdh of=arpwatch_20240725.img bs=512 count=11536383 status=progress

grim

08/05/2024 at 18:35:11 CDT

yeah that's the only way i know how to do it, but it seems like someone would have written a script to do this already..

rekkanoryo

08/05/2024 at 19:07:57 CDT

or something similar to win32diskimager that just wraps around the tools and makes it easy

grim

08/05/2024 at 20:23:04 CDT

there is gparted or parted magic or whatever it is

grim

08/06/2024 at 15:58:46 CDT

about time... > As of OpenSSH 9.8p1, DSA keys are no longer supported even with the > above configuration options. If you have a device that you can only > connect to using DSA, then you can use the ssh1 command provided by the > openssh-client-ssh1 package to do so.

rekkanoryo

08/06/2024 at 17:25:33 CDT

....that hadn't already been done?

grim

08/06/2024 at 17:31:51 CDT

just got it in apt-changelog..

rekkanoryo

08/07/2024 at 09:19:24 CDT

Enterprise software...ugh...

09:19:55

if a default setting is known to be insecure and the vendor explicitly recommends changing this default setting, why is that the default?

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renegadevi

08/07/2024 at 09:45:05 CDT

Bing get wrecked https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/s/LhT1r3PMHJ

09:45:21

Anyone even prefer Bing? Every time I use it it’s like so much shit everywhere

09:47:44

It feels like yahoo back in the day

ivanhoe

08/07/2024 at 09:56:31 CDT

I think it was okayish before the AI stuff.

renegadevi

08/07/2024 at 10:15:17 CDT

Brave search still clean with AI search, just slower. Tho main issue with brace search is lack of content but what is there is good

10:17:44

If this was 2005, it wouldn’t be called AI. Everything was called “Smart” back then :rwgrimLOL:

grim

08/07/2024 at 13:02:44 CDT

Wtf I just got an email from a recruiter noting my as400 and rpg experience... I've never touched anything like that .. :rwgrimLOL:

15:58:18

apparently people been getting emails about it now

grim

08/07/2024 at 16:02:35 CDT

didn't this happen years ago/

16:02:47

or was that just the addition of the X1 chain?

rekkanoryo

08/07/2024 at 21:04:03 CDT

I think it was the addition

rekkanoryo

08/08/2024 at 11:44:24 CDT

...also enterprise software: "We need Java but don't want to use Oracle Java. Let's vendor openjdk and never update it!"

grim

08/08/2024 at 11:50:40 CDT

There is Amazon's coretto (spelling?) now too...

rekkanoryo

08/08/2024 at 11:50:56 CDT

fair point but still, the never update part still applies

11:51:02

and yeah, you spelled it right

grim

08/08/2024 at 11:52:03 CDT

Yeah, but enterprises dont and update anything until they have too.. which reminds me I need to find time to update our k8s cluster at work before September where AWS will automatically update it for us ..

grimThere is Amazon's coretto (spelling?) now too...

ivanhoe

08/08/2024 at 12:29:40 CDT

sounds like an ice cream brand

ivanhoesounds like an ice cream brand

grim

08/08/2024 at 12:30:02 CDT

That could be intentional?

ivanhoe

08/08/2024 at 12:31:27 CDT

Oh yeah maybe. Wasn't there a JRE called "icedtea"?

grim

08/08/2024 at 14:22:22 CDT

yeah i recall that name but none of the specifics

renegadevi

08/08/2024 at 18:05:35 CDT

oh nice. windows having another moment. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-update-downgrade-attack-unpatches-fully-updated-systems/

renegadevi

08/09/2024 at 09:22:29 CDT

interesting. Phishing scams from HR is the most provokative ones. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20240807446875/en/KnowBe4-Releases-Q2-Quarterly-Phishing-Test-Results

rekkanoryo

08/09/2024 at 12:35:56 CDT

That's not at all surprising to me, as someone who works in IT and sees some of that stuff.

grim

08/10/2024 at 00:13:42 CDT

at some point we need to cut off legacy support...

00:13:51

apple definitely has that part right

00:14:02

although they may be doing it too quickly :rwgrimLOL:

Savos Darkran

08/10/2024 at 04:48:18 CDT

lmao

Savos Darkran

08/10/2024 at 07:40:33 CDT

I have a somewhat dumb question but feel it's likely possible. Traditionally I have restarted a pc when there is a new kernel. Is that still needed in this day and age? Can you init a new kernel without restarting?

07:44:27

ahh livepatch

rekkanoryo

08/10/2024 at 12:23:48 CDT

There is livepatch as you mentioned, but that's not always an option

grim

08/10/2024 at 14:11:36 CDT

There's kexec too but that's traditionally been meant for servers to limit down time.

Savos Darkran

08/10/2024 at 15:24:06 CDT

ahh yeah kexec.

15:24:15

i'll have to play around with them.

15:24:49

now....to find a production machine to do it on 👿

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lol

QuLogic

08/12/2024 at 16:36:32 CDT

huh, random reference: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.15/admin-guide/LSM/Yama.html#ptrace-scope

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grim

08/12/2024 at 16:38:59 CDT

i'd like to collect these random references and put them somewhere, but not sure what to call it...

16:39:34

wild.pidgin.im could maybe work.. in-the-wild.pidgin.im is too long, it doesn't feel like it should be on pidgin.im or developer.pidgin.im though..

16:40:27

side note, we should probably set up that ptrace stuff 😄

16:40:35

at least for non-debug builds

grim

08/13/2024 at 16:25:16 CDT

so according to facebook, i learned about !! in bash 12 years ago today

theendlessriver

08/13/2024 at 16:27:09 CDT

Haha nice, it was a game changes vor me when I learned !! and !$

grim

08/13/2024 at 16:27:34 CDT

!$ is second argument to the end right?

16:28:05

so like mkdir /really/long/path/i/do/not/want/to/type/again && cd !$ or is that something else?

theendlessriver

08/13/2024 at 16:29:03 CDT

Last Argument. I always do commit -m "v1.2.3" and then tag !$

rekkanoryo

08/13/2024 at 16:29:46 CDT

I am fuming right now. I worked form home today so I could get a package from FedEx that's signature-required. I needed to go to other branches today too. FedEx still has not delivered my package, despite giving me a 0930-1330 timeframe and later a 0930-1130 timeframe for delivery.

theendlessriver

08/13/2024 at 16:30:07 CDT

Also. Nice for python sth_annoying_to_autoxonplete.py and then vi !$

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grim

08/13/2024 at 16:30:07 CDT

fedex is garbage, avoid at all costs...

rekkanoryo

08/13/2024 at 16:30:19 CDT

if I had known they STILL wouldn't be here at 1730, I'd have gone to the branches instead of working from home.

grim

08/13/2024 at 16:30:24 CDT

i know that doesn't help now and you probably didn't have a choice, but that's my stance

rekkanoryo

08/13/2024 at 16:30:25 CDT

I didn't get a choice in carriers :/

grim

08/13/2024 at 16:31:02 CDT

when i get packages from fedex, ground in particular, but air as well, they're usually covered in dirt..

rekkanoryo

08/13/2024 at 16:31:51 CDT

I'm sure it's ground, there's a lithium (but not lithium ion) battery in there, so it wouldn't have been shipped air

grim

08/13/2024 at 16:32:04 CDT

also one time i fedex overnighted from stickers from chicago, a 2 hour drive... they flew them to tennessee on accident and i got the stickers in 3 days and couldn't get a refund on shipping..

rekkanoryo

08/13/2024 at 16:32:11 CDT

(stupid FAA being too stupid to know the difference between lithium coin cell and lithium ion batteries)

theendlessriverLast Argument. I always do commit -m "v1.2.3" and then tag !$

QuLogic

08/13/2024 at 16:32:39 CDT

ah, I use Alt+. for that; it puts the last argument in there, so I can see it or edit it

grim

08/13/2024 at 16:33:06 CDT

oh, or there's the time fedex lost my package in their local warehouse... I went to pick it up and they told me to come back the next day because they couldn't find it...

rekkanoryo

08/13/2024 at 16:33:33 CDT

back when I used newegg for stuff, FedEx was actually reasonable...but that's 20 years ago now

grim

08/13/2024 at 16:33:41 CDT

fedex's newest fuckery is delivering all my stuff to my neighbor's house..

16:34:09

nothing like carrying 60lbs of cat food across my yard because the fedex driver can't read the address...

rekkanoryo

08/13/2024 at 16:34:28 CDT

ouch

grim

08/13/2024 at 16:34:56 CDT

as you can see, my fedex complaints are chronic..

16:36:09

anyways, good luck with your delivery. i'd double check the tracking as it probably is still in a distribution center somewhere. that is, not that the site will actually have correct info, but yeah

QuLogicah, I use Alt+. for that; it puts the last argument in there, so I can see it or edit it

theendlessriver

08/13/2024 at 16:36:46 CDT

Ah that's your terminal doing it?

rekkanoryo

08/13/2024 at 16:36:54 CDT

I've been monitoring the tracking all day. It claims the package has been on a truck since 0727 and out for delivery since 0901.

theendlessriverAh that's your terminal doing it?

grim

08/13/2024 at 16:38:04 CDT

it'd have to be the shell, the terminal shouldn't be monitoring input like that

ivanhoe

08/13/2024 at 16:55:04 CDT

I think Alt . is a bash thing

grim

08/13/2024 at 17:03:29 CDT

it could be a readline thing

17:03:39

which bash uses not sure if zsh does

Vachidra

08/13/2024 at 18:46:32 CDT

I apologize, I'm new here, is there a room here to ask about fixing a problem with Pidgin?

VachidraI apologize, I'm new here, is there a room here to ask about fixing a problem with Pidgin?

rekkanoryo

08/13/2024 at 18:47:01 CDT

# support is likely the best place

Vachidra

08/13/2024 at 18:47:06 CDT

Thank you

rekkanoryo

08/13/2024 at 19:16:33 CDT

And it's now 8:15. No FedEx. Tracking now says today by end of day. I have a feeling I'm going to have to go hunt my package down.

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08/14/2024 at 12:37:44 CDT

Yeesh... Also a suggested mitigation is disabled ipv6.. this is why it'll always be a second class citizen ... https://cybersecuritynews.com/0-click-rce-windows-tcp-ip/amp/

grim

08/14/2024 at 13:44:11 CDT

So the psus for the build agents that were supposed to get here yesterday and now going to get here tomorrow. Apparently the shipper messed up my address somehow...

rekkanoryo

08/14/2024 at 13:54:39 CDT

hey, look at that, a mitigation I already have deployed in my environment by default

grim

08/14/2024 at 14:00:51 CDT

nice

rekkanoryo

08/14/2024 at 14:01:21 CDT

I feel like I need to sleep for like 2 months solid

14:01:34

but I can barely manage 6 hours in a night anymore

grim

08/14/2024 at 14:02:56 CDT

yeah same

rekkanoryobut I can barely manage 6 hours in a night anymore

koutsie

08/14/2024 at 23:34:41 CDT

i have the same but different

23:34:55

ii g ot 9.5 hrs of sleep tonight but feel more tired than if i slept less

theendlessriver

08/17/2024 at 06:54:55 CDT

Did anyone ever do a minidump analysis on windows? One of our build agents gets a BSOD with code 0x 21a and fails to boot. I was able to get it started with driver verification disabled but now I'm trying to find out what's failing the verification and causing the bsod. We don't have a working ansible workflow otherwise I'd just kill it - its been a while since we set it up. There was no chocolatey or winget back then. I always wanted to try building a delpoy based on that. But imo customizing windows is way to much powershell and regedit bs...

Savos Darkran

08/17/2024 at 07:13:07 CDT

If you have the dmp file you can use windbg in the store to read the dump.

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theendlessriver

08/17/2024 at 07:17:28 CDT

I did that but it just showed me what I already knew that winlogon could not be started. The process showed was ntoskrnl.exe which is also not very helpful... Maybe it's not an actually driver causing this and deactivating the verification has other (beneficial) side effects?

Savos Darkran

08/17/2024 at 07:18:49 CDT

if you're doing a minidmp, you could try doing a full dump.

07:21:56

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07:22:11

advanced system settings -> startup and recovery

theendlessriver

08/17/2024 at 07:23:43 CDT

Okay, I'll try that next

grim

08/17/2024 at 16:44:28 CDT

Yay still getting random freezes in Linux 6.10 on my machine...

16:45:40

and actually, freeze isn't the right term.. i can't do anything but the audio from the youtube video i was watching is still playing like normal.

16:46:13

ope, it just stopped and I can't ssh in

16:47:29

i think 6.9 was doing it too, and that's all i have for kernels now too... 6.10 and 6.9

grim

08/17/2024 at 17:10:17 CDT

and chrome just crashed on 6.9... well time to move back to unstable i guess

grim

08/17/2024 at 17:58:43 CDT

would appreciate everyone's input :rwgrimSoapbox: https://discourse.imfreedom.org/t/poll-irc-ctcp-requests/187

grim

08/17/2024 at 19:15:14 CDT

and chrome crashed again and took the rest of the machien with it this time..

19:15:20

guess it's firefox time

grim

08/17/2024 at 20:08:48 CDT

i know this is anecdotal, but damn firefox feels sooo much faster.

grim

08/18/2024 at 01:46:33 CDT

youtube will be back next stream

01:46:43

or not, obs just crashed :rwgrimFail:

01:47:05

[Sun Aug 18 01:46:32 2024] mp_media_thread[43289]: segfault at 7f8a1887ae88 ip 00007f6abf3a2ed0 sp 00007f6a5fdff778 error 4 in libavcodec.so.61.3.100[3a2ed0,7f6abf074000+ab4000] likely on CPU 29 (core 29, socket 0)

01:47:16

none of this happened in linux 6.8...

01:48:48

can't even pull it from testing..

$ apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64 linux-image-amd64: Installed: 6.10.4-1 Candidate: 6.10.4-1 Version table: *** 6.10.4-1 500 500 <a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="<a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a>" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="<a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a>"><a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a></a> unstable/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 6.10.3-1 500 500 <a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="<a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a>" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="<a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a>"><a style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0, 168, 252);cursor:pointer !important" href="http://deb.debian.org/debian" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" title="http://deb.debian.org/debian">http://deb.debian.org/debian</a></a> testing/main amd64 Packages

grim

08/18/2024 at 02:26:34 CDT

and obs just crashed when idling again.. trying to stream like this is going to be fun!

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 07:32:36 CDT

It's not still in your apt cache to pull it that way?

grim

08/18/2024 at 15:31:16 CDT

Oh maybe, didn't think of that

grim

08/18/2024 at 16:15:11 CDT

YouTube recommendations have officially lost it ..

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rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 16:22:08 CDT

Heh that ship sailed a WHILE ago

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:06:04 CDT

well i mean, that looks korean.. (i think) and i for sure don't know korean...

17:07:34

also this crash stuff is possibly tied to mesa < 24.1.6

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:08:42 CDT

why does ARM as an architecture have to be such a piece of shit when it comes to installing OSes? Why can't I just have a damn installer instead of having to flash preconfigured images?

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:08:58 CDT

yeah no idea..

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:20:38 CDT

also, fuck microhdmi, and fuck raspberry pi trading, ltd. for manufacturing producs using that trash

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:21:31 CDT

did something break?

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:21:36 CDT

almost

17:21:45

or at least it felt like it

17:21:57

it's also not clear that the micro hdmi end is plugged in until it feels like it's broken

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:22:13 CDT

ah.. i just swapped in an ssd in one of the mac mini's last night, so yeah i'm still trying to make sure i didn't break anything :rwgrimLOL:

17:22:21

oh damn

17:22:55

i haven't noticed that on my pi5, but i haven't done much with it to be honest, especially since it's headless now :rwgrimLOL:

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:27:19 CDT

also, the UK keyboard layout can die in a fire too

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:27:51 CDT

you hate that enter key that much?

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:28:02 CDT

no, I hate that " is on shift+2

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:28:16 CDT

also we were just looking at this on stream because i ran across GDK_KEY_ISO_Return and was like "wtf is this?"

17:28:23

eww

17:28:27

i didn't notice that one

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:28:39 CDT

needless to say I password failed about 15 times before I realized that was the problem

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:29:04 CDT

and now we know your password has a @ in it :rwgrimLOL:

17:29:22

or i suppose that could have been an email, but that wouldn't be masked..

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:30:16 CDT

about the only thing raspberry pi os does out of the box that I like is making the interface names make sense

17:30:32

eth0 and wlan0 instead of bullshti like enp0s1 or whatever

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:31:45 CDT

what if i told you that the enp#s% was logical... the # is the pci bus, and the % is the interface number on that bus

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:32:12 CDT

yes, I know that, but it's actually trivial for that to be changed on reboots too, despite the bullshit claims to the contrary

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:32:24 CDT

$ grep enp /proc/net/dev ; lspci | grep -i ether enp4s0: 9032100860 7767194 0 0 0 0 0 154681 548124853 1629310 0 0 0 0 0 0 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I211 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03)

17:32:51

yeah, that's true, but eth* can get messed up too.. they're all garbage

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:32:56 CDT

there's also the f0, f1, etc. at the end for multiport cards...which I get it, but ugh.

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:33:04 CDT

yeah

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:33:29 CDT

but on a raspberry pi, having it be anything other than eth0 would just be criminally stupid

17:33:56

especially since it's not a pcie device

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:34:04 CDT

at least they're not tying device names to mac addresses anymore

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:34:20 CDT

oh, wait, on the pi 5 eth0 actually IS a pcie device

17:34:32

on the pi 3 and older at least, it's USB

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:34:43 CDT

ah yeah

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:35:21 CDT

which is partly because the SoC's root hub on the pi 3 and older is only 2 ports, and the ethernet controller is actually a hub plus ethernet

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:37:25 CDT

also, 24 hours later, firefox still seems waaay faster than chrome

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:37:38 CDT

strange, I found the opposite last time I tried to daily drive firefox

17:37:57

in fairness that HAS been a while, and both firefox and chrome were what I would call completely unusable under wayland

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:38:21 CDT

ah this is under x

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:38:31 CDT

yeah, I'm still using X myself

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:38:58 CDT

and i dunno, chrome kept crashing, so between that and the impending ad blocker block I figured it's time

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:39:06 CDT

but it's been probably 18 months since I tried to convert to firefox the last time, and I was using xfce back then, so X for sure

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:39:20 CDT

wait you moved from xfce?

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:39:33 CDT

yeah, I'm running kde plasma, have been for a while

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:39:51 CDT

huh I didn't realize that, perhaps I forgot

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:40:10 CDT

although I don't use the desktop that much, I spend more time on my macbook because I have been spending all my time on the couch

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:41:12 CDT

heh nice

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:41:46 CDT

...I've been using Linux and UNIX systems for 23+ years at this point and I STILL have to google permissions for .ssh and .ssh/authorized_keys to get it right

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:42:56 CDT

heh

17:43:45

i just do ssh-copy-id now if i need to 😄

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:43:55 CDT

I didn't know that existed

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:44:00 CDT

obviously that doesn't work if you're only allowing key auth,but yeah

17:44:03

yeah it's nice 🙂

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:44:08 CDT

TIL

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:44:12 CDT

been around for awhile, i forget how i stumbled across it

rekkanoryo

08/18/2024 at 17:44:35 CDT

I wouldn't have had AS much trouble with this if I had used raspberry pi imager to flash this SD card.

grim

08/18/2024 at 17:45:09 CDT

ah yeah, that thing is nice too